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elbandita 02-15-2014 09:11 PM

Nylon nosebands
 
I'm inquiring about the use of nylon nosebands in reining training.
Some say they're an evil torture device? and a band-aid for poor training.

Others such as myself believe it's a stupendous device used to aid a horse in better instruction by way of keeping their mouth from gaping. veritably The Equine eluding the bit not as a result of weighty hands.

I'm fascinated in expanded Information moreover alternative perceptions on the device.

smrobs 02-15-2014 10:25 PM

I personally don't use them, but I know several horsemen whom I greatly respect that do use them (though they don't use nylon, it's either leather or rawhide for them) and swear by them.

I don't really think it's a question of right or wrong, providing that it's used properly and not cranked down tight enough to clamp the horse's mouth shut. IMHO, it's just a matter of different tactics.

elbandita 02-15-2014 11:02 PM

Thank you. Indeed I do concur. However Could you please veritably embellish on what the Nosebands purpose is?

What is goal to be achieved?

moreover does it bear the same intent of the Cavesson in english riding technique?

smrobs 02-15-2014 11:16 PM

Not sure of the exact purpose of a cavesson in English riding, but everyone who rides western that I've ever talked to just said that the nose band discouraged the horse from gaping their mouth in an attempt to evade the bit during the initial training stages. If they started to gape and ran into the noseband, it didn't hurt them, just made it difficult/uncomfortable for them to gape.

I've never really had a problem with a horse gaping, but I also always ride on draping reins until the horse learns to carry and respond correctly to the bit.

ropinbiker 02-18-2014 10:02 AM

We use them on most of our roping horses as an aid for the horse to "brace" against without us having to hit them with the bit...it helps them take off from the box flatter and, therefore, faster.

I would assume that they use them in reining training for some of the same purposes...it would allow you to stay on a loose rein while helping the horse stay in frame when they are learning.

ropinbiker 02-18-2014 10:03 AM

And, as smrobs said, we only use leather, rawhide, and occastionally a rope noesband.

We keep them adjusted pretty loose. When the horse is standing relaxed, we keep them so you can push the tie down up to the throat without getting the tie down tight.

Iseul 02-18-2014 10:08 AM

Don't know anything about the use of them in reining, but all my barrel racers get one once we start adding speed. It gives them something to brace/balance against in turns and take-offs. I don't generally use them in training because I'd rather the horse not use it as a crutch to do what they need to faster than their muscles are prepared for it. By the time I'm really pushing them, they know how to balance themselves through a turn and how to take off without jumping into it, they can then use it to make the take-offs even flatter/faster and make the turns faster.
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SlideStop 02-18-2014 10:18 AM

My trainer uses a VERY loose strand of chain link fence wire. When I first noticed I jumped to conclusions, thinking OMGGGGG. Then I actually thought about it. They mouths aren't tied shut or anything, It's just their to discourage them from opening their mouths and evading. I started a thread similar to this one a while ago. I'll see if I can resurrect it for you.
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SlideStop 02-18-2014 10:21 AM

Here you go: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-training/using-wire-nose-band-262129/

SlideStop 02-18-2014 10:22 AM

Link: http://www.horseforum.com/horse-trai...e-band-262129/
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