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Clio N 02-26-2014 06:35 PM

Wormers
 
I want to make a home made wormer using more natural ingredients. I have heard there are ones for intestinal parasites. Has anyone tried them out before and how did they work out?

verona1016 02-26-2014 07:00 PM

I wouldn't recommend it. By all means minimize the need for chemical dewormers by proper management and doing FEC's, but I wouldn't rely on "natural" remedies to control worms. People tend to forget that "natural" remedies are also chemicals- they can and do have negative side effects just like synthetic chemicals especially when used in improper dosages or preparations.

piglet 02-26-2014 07:08 PM

Correct worming is giving enough poison to kill the worms but not the host. Commercial wormers have a lot of research and developement behind them so they are effective against the worms, but still safe for the horse. I would not use my best friend as a guinea pig for home remedies.

jaydee 02-26-2014 08:54 PM

Before modern day wormers were designed people used to make 'natural' concoctions and 'drench' the horses with them but they were often useless and at times resulted in colic or severe diarrhea so I think I would stick with something that's tried and tested
Sorry I know that's not the answer you were looking for but worms left unchecked can cause serious permanent damage to a horse so not worth risking

usandpets 02-26-2014 10:34 PM

We just went to a seminar on deworming. It is now recommended to NOT do a regular schedule deforming and not to rotate dewormers.

You should have fecal counts done on each horse. The ones with higher counts would get dewormed but not the lower ones.

Regular dosing and alternating causes a resistance by the worms to dewormer. Leaving the lower count horse untreated lessens the resistance.
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ecasey 02-27-2014 02:58 AM

Here in my area of France, they do a seasonal worming. Every time the seasons change, all the horses get dewormed at the same time. I'm not advocating any one system over another, just throwing that out there.

amigoboy 02-28-2014 01:00 PM

Arsnik was used in the old dayīs, they didnīt have much too choose from.
Horses in the right enviorment can deworm themselfs to some degree by eating various toxic plant.
Horses will eat Black Oak Acorns to rid themselfs of worms.

I have to agree with the others, a deworming program.
FECīs are fine and can give some indication of the worm burden, but you must remember such test are unreliable, it only confirms that the horse has worms, mostly large strongyles. Tape worms, Bots, Pin and Round worms may not show up.
Your veternarian should have a good idea how parasite infected you area is.

jaydee 02-28-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by usandpets (Post 4849874)
We just went to a seminar on deworming. It is now recommended to NOT do a regular schedule deforming and not to rotate dewormers.

You should have fecal counts done on each horse. The ones with higher counts would get dewormed but not the lower ones.

Regular dosing and alternating causes a resistance by the worms to dewormer. Leaving the lower count horse untreated lessens the resistance.
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The daily dosing method using the same active ingredient has been shown to encourage worms to develop a resistance to it but as far as I've read on recent research publications changing the active ingredient is the best way to reduce resistance and not what causes it?
I do have them done but the fecal egg counts don't show up tapeworm or encysted worms - a blood test can confirm those and the latter are one of the most common causes of stomach ulcerations, anemia and severe weight loss in horses

Red Gate Farm 02-28-2014 01:17 PM

When I was in Ontario the old farmer there fed potato peelings to his draft horses and said that wormed them.

jaydee 02-28-2014 01:24 PM

I don't think there's anything in potatos that would kill worms - but fed in enough quantity they might give them diarrhea which would flush a lot of worms out - which is how some of the old fashioned stuff worked and I suppose if a horse was able to have access to a full range of grasses and herbage in its grazing they would eat things that had the same effect


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