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crazyhattricks 02-28-2014 11:12 AM

Help! Calm weight builder?
It's been a cold winter up here in illinois. I have 2 horses, ones always been a hard keeper thru the winter, but the other ones always seemed to keep weight on. Anyways, my question is, is that I need to put some weight on these girls, but I don't want them getting all hot. Anyone use weight building supplements and have success keeping your horse calm? If so what ones do you use?
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Yogiwick 02-28-2014 11:19 AM

So they both need weight? Seems a little odd. Make sure you're feeding enough!

What are they on now?

Start with making sure they have 24/7 access to good hay. I would suggest adding beet pulp, that by itself should be enough for an easy keeper.

roadswarrior 02-28-2014 12:22 PM

I have been feeding beet pulp, ProForm Step 6(senior), Step 8(hi-fat), Cool Calories and free feed hay with great success for a hard keeper. No hotness with the exception of a few "I'm feeling good" bucks on the lunge line.

crazyhattricks 02-28-2014 01:18 PM

Right now there on safe choice preform. They both get about a little bit more than half a scoop morning and night. Thanks guys!
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stevenson 02-28-2014 01:24 PM

what size is your scoop ? is it the tiny scoop which is about 1/2 quart or is it the big 3 quart scoop ? also what are they getting for forage. Increase your forage and increase the Fat content .

crazyhattricks 02-28-2014 01:45 PM

It's a 3 quart scoop. They get an alfalfa/grass mix for hay. They get 2 heavy flakes each, both morning and night.
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I would up their feed if they both need weight. This winter has been cold in many areas, we've certainly had to feed extra hay.

Its hard for us to give advice as to if its enough based off from "flake" and "scoop" but if they're thin then its probably not enough. Try more hay.

You can also add beet pulp, fat supplements (I like Tribute K Finish) and weight builders without extra energy. But weight builder, cool calories etc... isn't going to help if more hay is what you need.

Endiku 02-28-2014 03:25 PM

How heavy are your flakes? My 'heavy' flakes were 5-6 lbs depending on the flake, so two flakes would have only been about 11 lbs of hay a day. Most horses need at least 15, and harder keepers/winter horses often need 20+ lbs. My filly was eating 5 flakes a day in the winter when it wasn't even all that cold outside!

horselovinguy 02-28-2014 06:06 PM

I would leave the grain/feed alone and start by feeding each of them 1 more hay flake at each meal...
If you could break that into a 3rd mid day feeding it would be great or a nightime late feeding...
So instead of 4 flakes they will get 6 minimum a day to start....

It has been awful cold and nasty weather near everywhere this winter.
All animals such as livestock need the extra food...they are burning huge amounts of calories trying to stay warm...makes no difference whether in a barn or outside the animals know the difference in the weather and their bodies are working overtime trying to keep them warmer.

To me...if they are cleaning up all the hay, none wasted...they need more.
Their appearance is telling you they are hungry...better to up their hay source than push the grain or supplement line..

If after increasing their hay they still look poorly, then increase their grain/feed.
Make sure you feed minimum amounts of whatever grain you use so their daily nutritional needs are met. Measure by weight not volume as the bag instructs...
If you use supplements, feed it as a supplement top-dressing their feed, not figured into the per-day grain short-change their nutritional requirements otherwise.

Good luck.


loosie 03-01-2014 05:57 AM

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Grass hay, bit of lucerne/alfalfa & copra meal.

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