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Kaiya 01-19-2007 03:37 AM

Urgent Help With My TB
I was given an OTT TB around about 7 months ago.
He's been off the track about 12 months and I've been frequently riding him for the last 7 months.

For the last 2-3 months I've been trying to teach him to collect, he's going fine on left-hand circles but once i change to the right his head sticks out to the left. I've tried to correct it using my legs and slight give and take with my inside hand but his head sticks up in the air and he just gets faster. He also pulls alot causing my back and arms to ache.

I've checked for pain and had his teeth done but I've been told it's just the way he was ridden on the track. Down here their raced to the right. As a last resort we're considering sending him to a horse trainer, but this will be very expencive. Has anyone had a similar problem? What can I do? Any help would be wonderful.

barnrat 01-19-2007 08:32 AM

Him wanting to go faster to the right and pulling on you would be his need for speed..He has been trained his whole life to go fast and know your trying to get him to slow down and collect...he may be a bit confused.....

I dont know if this will help but maybe you should try some groundwork, especially to the direction right...Just keep him going right.....Hope I can help! :(

Friesian Mirror 01-19-2007 10:05 AM

Try lounging him to right and also try this (when your on the ground), stand to the right of him and get ahold of his halter, then gently pull his head around to you and put his nose close to his body, then hold......and then let it go and tell him good boy :wink: you should do this about 5 or 6 times everytime you put his halter on and this will teach him to "give" his neck. Now, since this may not have been done to him before, he'll probably move around in a circle, try to get him to stand still, you just want to move his head.

I saw this on the "Down under Horsemanship" show and tried it on Cassey, I sold her before I got very far in it, but I am going to do this to Rose. I hope this will help!!

(Sorry! I forgot to add that you should do this on BOTH sides, oops :roll: )

barnrat 01-19-2007 01:09 PM

Alot of Natural horse Trainers do this.. It really helps with Flexing, Raini (sarah) does this alot with raini, and I should do it more with Mike...If i ever get down there again (hoping to go today.) :cry:

Kaiya 01-20-2007 03:24 AM

I do the flexing thing every day and i do a fair bit of ground work but the thing is he cant lunge on a right circle.

barnrat 01-20-2007 09:40 AM

Sounds like your going to have to train him :)

Kaiya 01-21-2007 04:13 AM

Yup, but it isn't that simple especially since he raced for 7 years, got horse of the year for our region and the jockeys had trouble holding him. I've been told all the horses by Telesto are like this.

kristy 01-23-2007 06:46 PM

TB's have a much more diffcult time maintaining balance when being ridden. An OTTB, especially one that has raced for 7 years, is going to be extremely off balanced, especially when asking for collection. Do you have a trainer or are you taking this task on your own? For the horse to only be off the track for a year, to have been ridden consistantly only 7 months, I'd suggest slowing your progress down a bit. You have indicated signs of a horse that is off balance and bracing against your leg and arm cues. Also, this horse has been exercised consistantly to the left for years on end, he probably does not have the physique to consider higher level work to the right hand side, a side many OTTB struggle with. My advise is to go back to the training scale, which if you are considering collection, I'm sure you are familiar with. I would also suggest getting a trainer. This will have enedless benefits. Work on tempo, rhythm, and balance. Speeding up is also a indication of uneven tempo and rhythm, which is mandatory for collection.

CJ21 01-24-2007 02:58 PM

Help with TB
Hi, my names Cara and I'm new to the forum. I'm and equine trainer in Pembrokeshire, Wales. I have been reading about the problem with your TB and thought I would add a sugestion, maybe you should try long-reining him, and lungeing him on the long-reins, this would help you to create a bend, and control rythm and you may find after a few times he will relax and be more willing and comfortable to bend. I have found that this can help alot, I am training a TB mare with a similar problem, she was bred for racing but never raced, she went into showjumping, she later had an accident (kicked in the stifle) and was out of work for five years, I am bringing her into work again and producing her for dressage, and she is benefiting from a lot of ground work, especially the longreining as it can be built up gradually (ask a little then go on a straight line, this way he wont get so upset), just remember to work both sides evenly and ask a little at a time, too much at first may cause him to pull a muscle, or cause discomfort wich will upset him. This will also help to lighten and soften him up in the mouth.
Anyway hope this helps and made sense, I'm not very good at putting these thing down in writing, I'm better actually doing them :D

savepitbulls 01-24-2007 07:02 PM

Your horse needs to learn to move to the right. He was raced for a long time and is obviously unbalanced which isn't surprising at all. He needs to build the muscles that are required for going that direction and his brain also has to learn to go that direction. Its going to take awhile and it's going to be slow if you want to do it right. He might never be as comfortable going to the right as he is to the left but he should make drastic improvements over time. Start with the basics. Walking - then trotting - then a canter. And make sure you warm up going to the left where he is more comfortable and let him end going to the left as well. He needs to build his confidence going to the right and you don't want to overwhelm him.

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