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JinxXx0085 10-07-2007 11:25 PM

Anybody here use hackmore? What is the simplest one out there?

I'm not that familiar with hackmore and would like to know more about it and so on. I want the most simplest one possible. I want to introduce my horse to hackmore and d-ring snaffle for start.

Sara 10-08-2007 09:15 AM

JinxXx0085 10-08-2007 10:56 AM

I've seen that site too however I've learnt to not rely on Wiki for solid info. I hope to get solid information and your experiences from you guys.

I was googling a lot last night and came across bosal.. read some more about it. It seemed like it's a such simple device. I liked the idea that you can really neck rein with bosal too...

Now.. whats your take on both hackamore and bosal? :)

Spirithorse 10-08-2007 12:44 PM

To me, a TRUE hackamore is made out of rope or rawhide. NOT anything with metal. I would warn anyone against using a mechanical hackamore.

I want to get a bosal for my horse. Although, I have heard your horse should be pretty advanced before using one. Like being able to stop with your seat and not an ounce of rein, that kind of thing.

JinxXx0085 10-08-2007 01:55 PM

That's interesting SpiritHorse... I've read differently... I can't remember which site... but it stated that horses may be started out in bosal and then into snaffle by using both at the same time before removing bosal. They also stated that bosal can be used on either green or advanced horse depending on their need. It mostly based on how horse’s mouth are like whether the horse is still growing and their mouth would be changing too... or the horse has sensitive mouth and cannot take bit.

Other thing they did stated was that bosal isn't for beginners who don’t know how to be soft in hands. I get that completely. I just don't get it why there are so many different opinions...probably because there were too many people misusing bosal. I really liked bosal compared to many hackamores I see out there because it doesn't have any leverage/skanks or anything else on it. All it has is pressure points on horse face and it only takes very little to apply pressure.

emilou423 10-11-2007 09:06 AM

bosals are often used for training since they contact the horse the same way the halter does, and thus a young horse should already be accustomed to the pressure.

i use a hackamore on two of my mares because both only respond to neck reign, so no use for a bit. however i do use a mechanical hackamore, just in case. we stress repeatedly to (and monitor closely) anyone else who rides them that they must be extremely gentle when applying pressure. but we feel safer having the option for more pressure available if something should go wrong.
one mare has a leather nose peice with that faux sheep stuff inside, the other (that i ride) has a firm (not hard) rubber nose piece.
but my girl's setup will change the day i find something she will respond to. :-P

i think it all depends on where your horse prefers stopping pressure. if it stops for nose pressure, a bosal should be fine :-)
some are too sensitive to that and a bitless bridal is better because the straps cross under the chin to distribute stopping pressure evenly around the face.

oops, that was long... sorry :-D

sweetypie16 10-11-2007 11:18 PM

:shock: HACKAMORE..... i don't like them AT ALL! My advice would be don't use them unless you really have to. ( your horse has a hard mouth ect) I have seen horses with broken noses, not the riders fault!! The horse just simply tripped and the rider tryed to help it up and it broke the horses nose. Expirenced riders, that doesn't matter!!! Any rider can be unfortunate to have this happen. I would steer away from the bit, many to chose from!! :roll:

kitten_Val 10-12-2007 06:00 PM

I use sidepull on one of mine. Other one doesn't like the nose pressure though, so she goes in snaffle.

From what I know number of people start horses in sidepull or bosal and then go to the bit. But yes, one should have soft hands - as sweety said one can break horse nose.. :(

emilou423 10-13-2007 02:17 PM

i dont see how one can break a horse's nose if one does not put excessive pressure on the reins...

kitten_Val 10-15-2007 08:00 AM

If the horse takes off and there is a beginner on back I can bet on anything the first action will be pulling on nose. I assume it's still not that crucial with say sidepull, but I've seen beginners using huge ugly metallic mech hackamore with long shanks and narrow hoseband (which looks pretty scary even outside the horse nose :) ).

In fact I do pull on mine when she gets to the grass, but she ignores it most of the time (I have very mild sidepull though).

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