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strawberrypaint 10-09-2009 09:43 PM

what do i do to slow down my horse when jumping!
 
when i am just riding around he will just barrel through my hands like i am not even there i have tried alternating half halts but what could i work on when i am just riding around to help??

AzJumper 10-09-2009 10:16 PM

haha my favorite...I have had many horses that do this and it will take some work...first off what type of bit are you using? On the flat work on a lot of transitions..Halt, walk, trot back down to a halt...use your voice a lot so he knows what you want him to do. I would then slowly add in poles trotting over them then halting, backing up then forward again. Do this in a circle for awhile. I wouldn't jump him for awhile..yes I love jumping too, but he needs to learn not to run through your hands while jumping and they only way he can learn that is on the flat. If he gets heavy in your hands on the flat lift yours hand s and do some quick bump releases. Maybe try a different bit too...a thinner snaffle so he can't grab a hold of it, or a copper wire, which is more harsh so I would start with a thin snaffle. Hope this Helps

MIEventer 10-09-2009 10:20 PM

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when i am just riding around he will just barrel through my hands like i am not even there i have tried alternating half halts but what could i work on when i am just riding around to help??
Stop riding with your hands first, and start riding with your seat first.

You give a horse something to lean into, he will take it.

Seat Into Legs Into Hands To Soften.

Are you taking riding lessons?

munschk 10-10-2009 02:15 AM

Definitely need to do some flatwork... I had the same problem with my horse, she also just used to go straight through my hands. My riding instructor says that she was deliberately ignoring my hand aids and not respecting them. So I did a lot of flatwork, as AzJumper suggested, and lots of transitions. Then if she started going too fast, I'd try to slow her with the seat, which didnt usually work, then I'd start with the half halts, first starting with the lightest pressure of my hands (literally just tightening your fingers) and then increase the pressure of the half halts until she responded. It might sound harsh, but my instructor said it was the only way to get her to respect my hand aids and I'd always start, everytime, with the lightest pressure and then stop the moment she showed any signs of slowing. Then you gradually ask for more (ask her to slow down more) until you get the response you want. I also found that by using a voice/sound aid everytime I did it, it helped a lot because at the end I could just use the voice aid for most of the time and she slowed down.

Now, once they're respecting your hands and hand aids, then comes to the jumping part. I did a lot of pole work on the ground, and a lot of circling near jumps. This way, you horse gets to look at the jump but you take him/her away from it until they no longer speed up on the approach and then you let them jump over it. I started with very small jumps!

Then I made up a course of low jumps, close together so it involves a lot of turning and changes of direction and I got my horse to trot over all of them - I wouldnt let her canter into jumps until she was quite happy with trotting over them without an increase of speed. Then we started at the canter and did the same, lots of circles until she would approach a jump at a nice steady canter, if she kept going to fast, then back to trot again.

Hope it helps!

My Beau 10-10-2009 09:21 AM

My horse will do that to me every now when we're going to the right. Mainly when he's excited or nervous. Aside from all the advice that you've already gotten make sure you are bending them around your inside leg. If they can't throw their shoulder in it makes them much more managable.

MIEventer 10-10-2009 11:12 AM

You don't ride with your hands, you ride through your seat.

You slow your horse through your seat. You obtain control and rhythm through your seat.

What will really fix the problem? Dressage, Dressage, Dressage, Dressage.
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I had the same problem with my horse, she also just used to go straight through my hands. My riding instructor says that she was deliberately ignoring my hand aids and not respecting them.
It was because your horse was unbalanced and your horse was trying to obtain that balance through their neck, not through their core and their back end. But that also means that your horse was not getting any help from you, the rider through your position, seat, legs, upper body.

You do not slow your horse down through your hand aids. You do not slow your horse down by pulling on their mouth. You do not slow your horse or obtain rhythm through your hands at all.

That is ass backwards riding.

This may of worked for your horse, but my question is - is your horse truely balanced? Engaged? Back end dropped, ribs lifted, off their forehand and light up front?


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This is something every rider out there should know

SEAT into LEGS into HANDS to SOFTEN. It is taught by Olympic Eventers. It is taught by Olympic GP Jumpers and it is definately taught by Dressage World.

To have a horse balanced, rhythmic, fluid, round, soft, supple comes from proper Dressage Work. Proper balance from their rider.

If you are NOT Balanced. NOR is your horse.

munschk 10-11-2009 02:59 AM

I know you don't slow your horse down through your hands but your horse still has to accept hand aids, if you horse gets unbalanced and you want to half-halt to bring them back together again, don't you use your hands? Its a combination of hands and seat and legs to bring them back together again.

If I tried normal half halts then my horse would just go faster, so she had to learn to respond to the pressure. It doesnt take long for them to understand and now I can gently squeeze my reins, do a half halt and my horse comes back off her forehand. I could not have done that before because she was not sensitized to my aids.

And I dont believe she was going faster because she was unbalanced, she just wanted to go fast.

My2Geldings 10-11-2009 12:31 PM

It sounds like you have to go back to the basics. Work on your transitions and half halts. Doesn't sound like he wants to respect you so you have to start from scratch and work your way up again.

Circles, back him up. All those things are great things to do in case of a really bad run out but won't do you any good long term if you don't have that half halt.

Do you have access to a trainer for a little bit until you get this down?


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