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luvmyperch 10-23-2009 05:29 PM

Basic Tips??
 
Noah was obviously used to pull or drive for a good part of his life when he was with the amish. As he gets older, I'd like to keep him active with different, fun things to do. I've never driven anything! I was thinking of getting a pair of long reins to use while I just walk behind him to start. What differences should I be aware of when giving commands between riding and driving? Any tips/advice would be greatly appreicated!

ilovestitch 10-23-2009 09:18 PM

I have never driven anything, like with a cart behind it but i did teach my paint gelding to ground drive. I started him with lounging so he knew all the commands first and then I started on the ground driving and if you ride your gelding (and you use vocal commands) it should be an easy transition. The commands for turning and halting were the same when i taught my gelding from riding to ground driving just think of the lines being extended reins, and i used my vocal commands for halting and transitions (walk/trot). I dont know if that was any help or not

AlmagroN 10-25-2009 10:44 PM

um pull left to turn left right to turn right both back to slow or stop.. yep... thats about it. there are things like sawing the bit or shaking it, but you really have to sit behind one to be able to feel when you need to do that. umm, light tap on the rump with either a whip or the lines to go, or you can chirp... pretty basic

CheyAut 10-27-2009 10:21 AM

Gee and Haw are directional terms often used that your boy might know, you can try it out and see.

lillie 10-28-2009 04:13 AM

if he has been driven he will probably be used to the left rein being kept steady, to keep him from falling in, whilst you give with the right rein, to turn left, and vice versa for right turn. and sawing on the mouth is generally not good. nor is reinflapping. i would advise some long reining using voice commands, with general groundwork and when he is responding well to you, i would attatch a log or small car wheel behind him with some baler twine which you can easily cut if you need to get him out of it in a hurry. get someone at his head while you try him out first too. and if he will pull the tyre or log happily for a week or so, i would then think about putting a cart behind him. even if he has been driven in the past, if he has had a gap, then he will need a refresher course, so to speak, and it is far easier to sort out any problems in easy stages, rather than end up with a big expensive or dangerous problem because of rushing things. ie. no point in getting hurt or wrecking a perfectly good cart.

AlmagroN 11-04-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lillie (Post 441622)
and sawing on the mouth is generally not good. nor is reinflapping.

no but these are things you NEED to know if you find yourself in trouble with a horse. sawing the bit can bring a horse from a beginning to run away on you, to a hult and back under control. just because its not something you need to do all the time, doesnt mean you should know WHEN you should use seomthing like that.

and i dont see anything wrong with tapping on the rump with lines. its been done for many years without a problem. especially if this was an amish horse. this is what he was used to.

lillie 11-04-2009 01:04 PM

i just have to disagree with you again then. one of the bonuses of learning from a good driving instructor, and spending several monthes training your horse so that it behaves sensibly and calmly in a tricky situation, and so that you learn the methods of actually being able to avoid a lot of those situations before they accelerate into a bolting horse etc. , is the fact that you dont need to saw on his mouth or flap your reins.

AlmagroN 11-05-2009 09:00 AM

the fact of the matter is horses and situations are sometimes unpredictable. you cant stop every situation from happening, and you cant take a horses instinct of flight away from them. the only thing you can do is control it. just because YOU dont do it, doesnt mean its not a tactic that can be used properly and effectively.

lillie 11-05-2009 01:01 PM

so tell me, if you had someone yanking on reins, and flapping them on your arse, and they attatched to a lump of metal stuck in your mouth, wouldnt you be unpredictable too, or hadnt it occurred to you that whatever you do with the reins has an effect on the horses mouth. and further, just because a horse has been owned by someone who may have flapped the reins in the manner that you think may have occured with a horse owned by amish, is no excuse for not trying to do it properly and with consideration, for the living , feeling, animal in your care, and for your own pride and enjoyment.

AlmagroN 11-05-2009 02:59 PM

the key to everything is proper use. you dont saw the bit while tapping them with the lines. thats common sense. and if your horse doesnt know what that "big chunk of metal" is for in their mouth, then why are you driving them in the first place?


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