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Britt 10-28-2009 11:45 PM

Is there anything wrong with his teeth? Or is it normal?
Lately my three and a half year old gelding has been kind of hard to bridle... throwing his head up and trying to avoid the bit... things like that. I wasn’t thinking anything of it, figuring he was just going through a ‘young-horse-phase’...

Anyway, so we rode earlier today for a while. As I was unbridling him, he pitched a small fit. Definitely not normal. I got to looking at his teeth and noticed that he has one loose tooth up top (it’s not too loose, but it’s getting there) and two teeth on bottom that look kinda... weird... and his gums are swollen where those teeth are.

I don’t know anything about horses’ teeth, so can someone help me out here? I dunno if this is normal for a young horse or if I should be keeping a closer eye on him or what...

Honeysuga 10-29-2009 01:04 AM

That looks painful, you might want to get your vet to come out and check on those they look infected, i read that horses shed their baby teeth around 2.5 to 4.5 years so he might be doing just that but still, they lok bad. I know it sounds wierd but id take some mint toothpaste(my horses like the taste and if they eat it it doesn't really hurt them(you can use baby toothpaste too) and an old tooth brush and try to brush some of the gunk of of them, might help with any infection plus the mint is cooling on them... i did this to moonie when he lost his baby teeth and it seemed to make him feel better( of course he was spoiled as heck and i think he just liked eating the berry flavored toothpaste, but w/e helps in my opinion.... but ya get your vet out just to make sure nothing is amiss, is he growing in his wolf teeth? that could cause pain when you bridle him...

Britt 10-29-2009 01:29 AM

He's already had his wolfe teeth pulled (had them pulled either last year or the year before... I don't remember).

I posted this topic on another forum I'm on a lot and got some good advice... I'm going to talk to my family tomorrow about getting a vet out, and if we have any mint toothpaste, I'll try to brush his teeth, (lol... sorry, that just sounds funny...).

My family isn't gonna be happy about this... we've already had to get the vet out for my mare a few weeks ago, and my boy has recently had an abscess (though we didn't get a vet out for that, I had to run to the vets office and buy some medicine)... Every time I turn around it seems like something is wrong with one of my horses... If I can talk my mum andgreat grandmother into paying for another vet bill, I'll get the vet out. If not, I can make a trip up to his office or call him and talk to him. I don't have a job yet (been looking for a few months now and still haven't found one), so my family pays for the vet bills and my mum doesn't much like horses and my grandma doesn't really understand the need for a vet for 'every little thing' (her words, quoted from a few months ago when I wanted to get my horses Coggins and Vaccinations done).

tealamutt 10-29-2009 01:36 AM

well those teeth should be getting ready to come out at 3 and a half (his second incisors) but they don't look totally great. Yes, horses are a lot of money aren't they? If you neglect a dental problem now, it could cost you thousands down the road though. They don't look totally great/normal, maybe see if you can email the pics (great job by the way) to the vet to see what they think and if you need to do something? Also, if the bridle is causing him pain, maybe give him a little time off it is just the teeth coming in. You could do ground work in the meantime?

Honeysuga 10-29-2009 03:37 AM

Id just explain to your mom that this is a necessary thing for the health of your horse, that if it isn't treated or even looked at now, it could cause major problems in the future. Let her know that it might just be nothing but as a respondible horse owner you want to be sure. You can even work out a deal with her that you could keep track of the bills and offer to repay some or all once you begin working, that might help alot, its what i had to do to get my mom to help me out with my vet bills when i was younger...
Maybe even promise that you will make sure to try everything you can do yourself in the future before you call the vet, so you can help cut down the cost, but teeth are a definite vet call.
And you don't have to use mint, i've just had more success with it than say bubblegum or berry, i tried citrus a few times but they don't seem to care for it. Ya i know it sounds wierd that i brush my horses teeth, some more senior members are probably rolling their eyes at me over this hehe, and maye it is, but hey they are pets to me and it is something they enjoy(btw i also brush my dogs and cats teeth and bathe my cats....)... oooh you could try a cinamon toothpaste and see how that goes i bet hed like the taste... i only say toothpaste cause if there is an infection it might help a bit you could also use some heavily salted warm( body temp or a lil higher, around 100 degrees F) water (pour and stir warm water till it will not absorb any more salt) , and you dont have to use a toothbrush, you can use some gause just roll it up nice and tight in a roll about half an inch thick should work nicely, it has been used as a disinfectant for hundreds of years and will help kill any infection and after it stops burning (ya any open sores or wounds are gonna burn like heck but you can rinse them with tepid water if he gets too uncomfortable) will soothe and reduce redness and swelling. And if you do brush them pay good attention to his gumline, try to grt as much of that black gooey stuff off without rubbing the gums raw.
Hopefully they come out easily and he has no more problems!!

tealamutt 10-29-2009 10:40 AM

honeysuga, props to you for giving your animals such excellent dental care!! dental disease is a major cause of health problems in animals (including systemic infections and heart disease). Let them roll their eyes, you're the one saving lots of money, pain, and suffering down the road. Sorry to hijack, I just wanted to say how awesome that is!

Britt 10-29-2009 12:11 PM

I will talk to her (my mum) in about an hour (I have to to to town, so I can stop by her house) and explain the stuff to her. I will also try to get ahold on one of the two vets I use and see if I can email the pics to them, and if not, I can call and talk to them, I'm sure, and see what they think.

And I will also try brushing his teeth for sure. I've brushed my mares teeth in the past, but never my gelding's. It should be a new experience for both of us, and I'll make sure to be extremely careful in case his gums are sore.

free_sprtd 10-29-2009 04:15 PM

Yup my gelding has one like that and he's the same age. they're loosing em and making way for new ones.

gypsygirl 10-29-2009 04:20 PM

its definitely normal for them to need their teeth done between 2 & 4. a lot of changes are going on in their mouth & they are loosing teeth/caps. the vet i work for likes to check them at 2.5 & 3 esp if you are planning on putting a bit in their mouth

Honeysuga 10-30-2009 03:44 AM

Britt- good luck with your mom, i know its hard to talk to parents and try to convince them you are serious... don't forget to tell us how the tooth brushing goes( maybe see if you can get some pics?!)

Tealmutt, thank you. Its nice to hear a little praise for trying to keep my pets healthy. In the area i grew up in people always looked at me like i was a freak, when i wa sjust trying to be a good owner, though of course theh "cowboy" way is more toted around here( ie, little health care and harsh and neglectful(in my opinion) training techniques). Though seein my babies healthy happy and well adjusted is enough for me, it still feels good to have someone say good job every oncein a while...

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