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alli09 10-30-2009 10:58 PM

I love HSUS.
 
Common Myths about Horse Slaughter | The Humane Society of the United States

kevinshorses 10-31-2009 01:42 AM

Just because they use the word FACT before thier statement doesn't make it true. You should look a little deeper before making up your mind. Even if I didn't own horses or care a lick one way or another about horse slaughter I wouldn't want the government telling me I couldn't ship my personal property anywhere I wanted for any reason. I have seen the horses that go to slaughter and they may be in good body condition but most would not make good riding horses. I'm not trying to start a debate because niether one of us are likely to change any time soon so I encourage you to look deeper into the issue and make your own judgements. Don't rely on any organization to tell you the truth about both sides of the issue.

alli09 10-31-2009 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kevinshorses (Post 444969)
Just because they use the word FACT before thier statement doesn't make it true. You should look a little deeper before making up your mind. Even if I didn't own horses or care a lick one way or another about horse slaughter I wouldn't want the government telling me I couldn't ship my personal property anywhere I wanted for any reason. I have seen the horses that go to slaughter and they may be in good body condition but most would not make good riding horses. I'm not trying to start a debate because niether one of us are likely to change any time soon so I encourage you to look deeper into the issue and make your own judgements. Don't rely on any organization to tell you the truth about both sides of the issue.

This is the Humane Society of the United States.There facts are based on what they've witnessed

MacabreMikolaj 10-31-2009 01:10 PM

You can't use "facts" based on what hasn't happened yet. Which is something they fully claim when it comes to a pro-slaughter opinion (ending slaughter will increase the number of neglected horses, no scientific evidence) and yet they use completely to their own advantage for any opinion they're trying to promote.

I stop listening to "facts" when they're obviously unsupported and biased.

Spastic_Dove 10-31-2009 01:23 PM

I thought it was interesting that they said 92 percent of slaughter horses were in good condition and then soon went on to talk about how they're all going to end up with broken bones and missing eyes...

What a load of biased crap.

MaloreyAnimal 10-31-2009 01:35 PM

HSUS is as bad as PETA, just so you know. I don't support either. Once you look deep into it, you'd see why.

alli09 10-31-2009 04:54 PM

They are NOTHING like PETA. They go around doing studies with horse slaughter and what they've seen is what they've reported on that site.

Spastic_Dove 11-01-2009 02:19 PM

What scientific studies have they done?

I think HSUS is another organization that started out with good intentions but have gone sour. Only a small percentage of their funds (donations, fundraising, etc) actually goes to the animals in shelters and to -directly- benefit the animal which is why I dislike them.
You don't know where your money is going unless you skip the middle man and I think HSUS is a great example of that.

They HSUS is not affiliated with actual humane societies. The are the most wealthy "animal welfare group" and yet they do not assist any animals. No Spay-Neuter clinics, no assistance to horse rescues, no education outside of propaganda. They have misrepresented USDA approved dog kennels as Puppy Mills and use smear campaigns to con people into donating money.

Not to mention:

We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding ...One generation and out. We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.



The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration.
- HSUS senior scholar Michael W. Fox


They seem to be on the same level as PETA to me

alli09 11-01-2009 02:27 PM

well then you must not be talking about horses because horses are not livestock.They are companion animals and I think it's wrong that man turned them into what they have become.

SmoothTrails 11-01-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alli09 (Post 446470)
well then you must not be talking about horses because horses are not livestock.They are companion animals and I think it's wrong that man turned them into what they have become.

They are both livestock and domestic animals, both of these were covered in that quote. They are also a creation of human breeding, so they are covered three times in that one quote.


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