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Crimsonhorse01 11-17-2009 06:28 PM

Studs for 2010
 
So im looking into breeding my PB arab mare Raja. I am looking at two studs. One is a AQHA Perlino to get a nice buckskin (hopefully) or palomino Quarab. Or a really nice Arab stud that has a wonderful disposition to go along with confo.

Quarter-
All Breed Pedigree Query

Arab-
Airborne X-press Arabian

chika1235 11-17-2009 06:50 PM

some pics would be helpful, reg. is important but not aways the most useful in deciding which stud.

Erin_And_Jasper 11-17-2009 06:55 PM

whats pb?

Crimsonhorse01 11-17-2009 07:08 PM

Pure bred Registered. I dont have photos handy. Ive seen them in person.

ShutUpJoe 11-17-2009 07:10 PM

Pics would be nice. But KR breeds some really nice Quarter Horses, from what I've seen.

MacabreMikolaj 11-17-2009 07:31 PM

I think we'd really need pictures. I'm an Arab person and all I see from Airborne X-Press is a young stud who's probably done nothing in his lifetime but stand around looking pretty, and his bloodlines are nothing to be impressed with either - just a whole line of "stand around and breed 'em pretty" from what I can tell. So if he's by magic got some amazingly flawless conformation, maybe, but I see nothing about him on paper that says "Breed me".

As for the other one, I don't know much of anything on stock horse bloodlines, but he seems to be yet another "good for nothing but breeding" line. People are usually pretty proud of accomplishments and I've seen info listed on some absolutely nothing horses, and both these studs have generations of absolutely nothing tied to their name by way of accomplishment.

Not saying that only show horses are good studs, but when you get that many generations of doing absolutely nothing, 99% of the time it's because it's backyard breeders doing nothing but producing. And it says nobody has ever been impressed enough with their conformation to buy any of them for a show ring.

My two cents anyway.

Crimsonhorse01 11-17-2009 07:41 PM

My two things to look for in my horses is conformation and disposition. I could care less how many halter points or awards they have won. The Perlino is just 30 mins from me he is a nice horse. No major faults throws some pretty using babies. I have a half sister of the Arab stud. I love the disposition and hes has good confo. He is smaller 14.2 wich is perfect in my opinion.
So its pretty much breed the pb for an amazing dispotion or possibly get a cross good dispotion possbibly not as good as the arab but with color. I am not planning on selling this colt.

Pidge 11-17-2009 11:31 PM

Well i dont know much about arab lines except the names of a few major ones...which i wasnt seeing...

BUT the QH stud has some decent ones... I noticed Doc Bar in his ped. and he has some poco and cutter lines... ive been around a cutter bred stud and he had an amazing disposition...well mannered horse...

If I were you I might try the QH since MacabreMikolaj seems to know her arabs and says the lines are nothing special... The QH has some good ones in there...

Either way good luck with the baby!

MacabreMikolaj 11-18-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimsonhorse01 (Post 464616)
My two things to look for in my horses is conformation and disposition. I could care less how many halter points or awards they have won. The Perlino is just 30 mins from me he is a nice horse. No major faults throws some pretty using babies. I have a half sister of the Arab stud. I love the disposition and hes has good confo. He is smaller 14.2 wich is perfect in my opinion.
So its pretty much breed the pb for an amazing dispotion or possibly get a cross good dispotion possbibly not as good as the arab but with color. I am not planning on selling this colt.

That's fine, my only point was that when you see that many generations of horses doing absolutely nothing but breeding, you often WON'T get as good conformation as the show horses. I'm definately not saying it's impossible, it's just the mentality I've seen time and time again - people with excellent horses usually want to promote them, knowing they can make good money off their offspring in stud fees which is only natural with breeding being very expensive. People who just continue to breed without doing much with the animals quite typically don't have as good of an eye for conformation.

Plus, I like to know a horse has a pedigree of "doers" - a horse can have flawless conformation, and be a complete dud. I'd prefer a few conformation faults in a strong pedigree of proven champions as opposed to pretty conformation in generations of horses that may have a hidden weakness you can't see and has never been spotted from not working them. An ideal example of this is halter Arabians - to see one, many people would think "perfect conformation" and yet they've been specifically bred in a way as to make them extremely weak and uncapable (for the most part) of doing real work. If you wanted an Arabian that was a doer, you'd be better off breeding to the local reining champ then spending thousands of dollars on some Psyche stallion.

Again, just my opinion.

EquestrianHollywood 11-23-2009 06:25 PM

I would say arabian X arabian...


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