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horseluvr2524 05-16-2014 03:42 PM

HELP! Grooming tips please!
 
OK, this isn't exactly about horse grooming, but dog grooming. However, it does pertain to horses in shedding season.

My dogs are shepherd mixes, year round shedders in this hot climate. It drives me crazy. I gave them a bath today (really worked the suds in and loosened hair), let them dry out in the backyard, then brushed, and brushed, and brushed, and brushed, and brushed....

I use one of those undercoat rakes. I sat there for 4 minutes working on this one 3 inch spot on the dog's coat. Four minutes of continuous brushing and the hair did not lessen at all! Sure, I got the top coat and majority of loose hair, but I can't seem to get all of it. :evil:

So, is there a faster way, or more efficient way, to do this? Any tips or tricks? Or should I just take them to a groomer and make them bathe and brush them good (I don't want them shaved. It's not good for their double coat). Help please!

SullysRider 05-16-2014 03:50 PM

Furminator! They are amazing for double coat dogs, and yes unfortunately with double coated dogs in a hot climate you're going to have to put hours into brushing. And if you want to keep your house relatively hair free, hours a week doing it. One of the reasons I won't have a German Shepherd lol (among others).

horseluvr2524 05-16-2014 04:03 PM

I wouldn't have gotten double coated dogs, it just happened that way. My sister brought the mother dog home as a stray when I was 9 years old. A few months later, mommy dog had 6 puppies. We kept one. The puppy took more after a german shepherd collie look, while the mother has more of a wiry coat, like a cross between a shepherd and an australian cattle dog.

I have the same thing as a furminator. This is what it is:
http://assets.academy.com/mgen/04/10...jpg?is=500,500

Would it be worth it for me to get something like this?
FURminator Vacuum Attachment Accessory for Dogs and Cats - FURminator Deshedding Tool


Or should I just suck it up and take them to the groomers? Oh, and I was so annoyed. I bathed them with this nice smelling oatmeal shampoo, let them onto the grass yard to dry because if I let them in the house the hair was going to go everywhere. Then I go out to brush, and the mother dog still smells like a dirty dog minutes after her extreme bath! AGH!

sea 05-16-2014 04:07 PM

I am actually a dog groomer! And while a furminator is great at home, really the absolute best way to get all that hair out in one session is to get them washed and blown out by a professional. We use 4hp blowers (they sound like jet engines, pretty much) after using a furminator solution to blast all the undercoat out, then brush them with the furm brush afterwards to get whatever's remaining. I bring my GSD in every month to do it.

Downside is, the treatment can be quite expensive, and bringing your dogs to a salon can be a hassle. If you don't want to deal with it, then yes, get a furminator brush and preferably the shampoo solution and do it that way instead. It still works pretty well, just more work on your part. :P

ShadowRider 05-16-2014 04:12 PM

Oh, how I feel for you! We've had two German Shepherds (and we live in AZ, too) so I know exactly what you are talking about. Honestly, I gave up the idea of ever getting everything out. I bathed and brushed regularly, but just dealt with vacuuming the house A LOT :D. But, GS are awesome dogs, so it was worth it to us. Unfortunately, we lost them both to cancer :-(.

horseluvr2524 05-16-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sea (Post 5401642)
I am actually a dog groomer! And while a furminator is great at home, really the absolute best way to get all that hair out in one session is to get them washed and blown out by a professional. We use 4hp blowers (they sound like jet engines, pretty much) after using a furminator solution to blast all the undercoat out, then brush them with the furm brush afterwards to get whatever's remaining. I bring my GSD in every month to do it.

Downside is, the treatment can be quite expensive, and bringing your dogs to a salon can be a hassle. If you don't want to deal with it, then yes, get a furminator brush and preferably the shampoo solution and do it that way instead. It still works pretty well, just more work on your part. :P

Interesting! Do you think if I took them in one time, and then kept up with the brushing every week I wouldn't have to take them in every month? I know a lot of it is build up as I haven't been keeping up with it.

And wouldn't a hair dryer work in the same way?

sea 05-16-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by horseluvr2524 (Post 5401706)
Interesting! Do you think if I took them in one time, and then kept up with the brushing every week I wouldn't have to take them in every month? I know a lot of it is build up as I haven't been keeping up with it.

And wouldn't a hair dryer work in the same way?

A normal hair dryer will not work the same way unfortunately. It is simply not powerful enough. Fine for single coated dogs like a yorkie, but a big shepherd mix? Nooo way!

Yes, if you keep them up between treatments, it'll be just fine. If you get the furminator spray and spritz them, then brush them for about 10 minutes at least once a week, you shouldn't have any shedding issues. Usually my dog doesn't actually NEED to have it done so much honestly, but I get a free personal groom a month at my salon, and don't actually feel like grooming my dog after spending all day grooming dogs, so it works out for me that way! :P Plus, she loves being in the salon because she's a ham.

SullysRider 05-16-2014 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseluvr2524 (Post 5401602)
I wouldn't have gotten double coated dogs, it just happened that way. My sister brought the mother dog home as a stray when I was 9 years old. A few months later, mommy dog had 6 puppies. We kept one. The puppy took more after a german shepherd collie look, while the mother has more of a wiry coat, like a cross between a shepherd and an australian cattle dog.

I have the same thing as a furminator. This is what it is:
http://assets.academy.com/mgen/04/10...jpg?is=500,500

Would it be worth it for me to get something like this?
FURminator Vacuum Attachment Accessory for Dogs and Cats - FURminator Deshedding Tool


Or should I just suck it up and take them to the groomers? Oh, and I was so annoyed. I bathed them with this nice smelling oatmeal shampoo, let them onto the grass yard to dry because if I let them in the house the hair was going to go everywhere. Then I go out to brush, and the mother dog still smells like a dirty dog minutes after her extreme bath! AGH!

If it were me I would try the vacuum attachment. To make a big difference they would have to go to the groomers often and turn into a big bill (but if you can afford it, why not). What exactly does the momma dog's coat look like? If she's truly wired haired she may need to be hand stripped rather than furminated.

horseluvr2524 05-16-2014 04:36 PM

Momma dog has a coat that has a wiry top layer. It repels water and I have to drench her 2-3 times before putting shampoo on her. It is slightly softer in some areas (thighs, shoulders, parts of neck). Back has the most wiry hair. Kind of reminds me of a beaver. This picture is similar to her coat type (though she looks nothing like this dog)

http://www.paaws-tx.org/Dogs/dog_queens_blue-heeler.jpg

Daughter dog is more of a classic shepherd. When clean, her coat is very nice, soft, silky, and fluffy. This looks a lot like her. I guess she is most like a shepherd/husky mix.http://images.mylot.com/userImages/i...os/2041091.jpg

Burgundyblankets 05-16-2014 07:27 PM

I have Australian Shepard's... Shop vac on the reverse setting (so it blows) after an warm bath.. Hot releases hair, cold retains it.
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