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Dartanion 11-29-2009 05:59 PM

HHhhmmm What Suppliments to get???
 
During the show season (and off season) I have D on various suppliments. When It's summer I have him on electroyles, joint suppliment, grain, and sometimes all in one feed. I was also thinking of maybe getting him some type of all-round minerals? He's got good strong feet and my shower has never suggested any type of hoof suppliments so I think I am good there. My main question is what YOU think would be a good joint support suppliment? I grew up with my trainer always giving the Next Level Joint Fluid
Next Level® Equine Joint Fluid from SmartPak Equine
Then Missing Link:
Missing Link Plus with Glucosamine from SmartPak Equine
then some electrolyte:
Apple Elite Electrolyte from SmartPak Equine
Something for coat and skin:
http://www.jeffersequine.com/ssc/pro...=1&pf_id=11643
(honestly I don't really notice a difference in his coat weather I am using show glo or not, I was thinking of trying flaxseed as my friends horse is on it and WHAT A COAT!)

Does anyone have any suppliments they would recomend(SP)??
Here is a little more info on D incase maybe there is something I am not thinking of?? He's not on any suppliments as of right now because I ran out and just haven't gone to buy anymore.
Dartanion:
13yrs old (14 in April of 2010)
16H
Showmanship
English Pleasure/Eq
Hunters (up to 3')
Jumpers (up to 3')
Trail Trial type stuff
Trail

With a heavy show scedual in 2010 (around 15shows give or take)
thanx everyone :D OH

JumpingTheMoon 11-29-2009 07:48 PM

SmartPak is really good at consulting, along with advice from your vet. I currently have both of my horses on SmartMSM, CoolCalories and Hoof & Health.

Dartanion 11-30-2009 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JumpingTheMoon (Post 475783)
SmartPak is really good at consulting, along with advice from your vet. I currently have both of my horses on SmartMSM, CoolCalories and Hoof & Health.

Thanx, I have been hearing a lot of good things about SmartPak. My vet has never really suggested any specific(sp) supplements, all she's really said is "It's good to have him on electrolytes during the summer specially on show days." But she also said if putting him on a mutli-vit supplement it won't hurt :).

luvs2ride1979 11-30-2009 11:51 AM

Less is more when it comes to supplements.

For joints I have had great luck with Acti-Flex 4000. It's a liquid that's very potent. For maintanence, you can use 1/2 dose. Big D's has the best price on it.

For everything else, I get a custom blend from horsetech.com. Their flax base is one of the best out there and works very well for coat and hooves. Mine is a vit/min blend in their NutraFlax with extra magnesium for my "easy keeper" and moody mare. If you're not sure what kind of blend you need, they have a vit/min pre-done that you can have blended with 1-2 oz of the NutraFlax. I use 2 oz as my horses don't have a lot of grazing (provides good Omega 3's that are missing in hay).

They can also blend in joint supplements too, for an all-in-one product. I don't have all of mind on joint supplements, so I go with separate products.

To encourage my horses to drink water, improve skin and hoof health, and keep my boys "clean", I use 1/2 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar. It works well and I don't have to feed electrolytes. I get the cheap ACV from walmart, $3.78 a gallon.

Dartanion 12-01-2009 04:00 AM

Hey, thnx so much. Very informative :D

JumpingTheMoon 12-01-2009 09:03 AM

Luvs ~ you put the AVC in their water buckets? I haven't heard of that before. Is that kind of like cranberry juice for people?

I also agree on the less is more type thing. When it comes to multivitamins, etc, if you're feeding grain or pelleted feed check the ingredients list. A lot of horse feeds are fortified so you don't want to give them double doses.

MN Tigerstripes 12-01-2009 11:29 AM

Agree with Luvstoride and JumpingTheMoon on the "less is more approach". There are a couple of vitamins/minerals that can cause serious problems in your horse if you go over the required amount, so if you're using 5 different supplements + grain + hay you could very well be double or triple dosing your horse on several different vitamins/minerals/meds/etc. Talk to your vet specifically about what's in the supplements and if she can't help you ask her for someone who can.

starlinestables 12-01-2009 12:25 PM

Save yourself the money and just get the joint supplement.. I like smartflex senior.. I felt it was the best value and had good bits of everything in it. The only thing I don't like is that its a powder I wish it came in pellet. BUT it does smell realllly good. yum! For coats I stick to good ol' vegetable oil.. especially when it comes to powdered supplements.

mls 12-01-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MN Tigerstripes (Post 477387)
Talk to your vet specifically about what's in the supplements and if she can't help you ask her for someone who can.

Yes.

Check your hay and your feed. If there is something lacking in your area, please supply it. Over supplementing CAN cause issues as some of the items cannot be readily eliminated from the body.

Dartanion 12-01-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by starlinestables (Post 477424)
BUT it does smell realllly good. yum! For coats I stick to good ol' vegetable oil.. especially when it comes to powdered supplements.

Lol I hear you there! I remember when I was a teen ager I would go into the kitchen and put a little veggie oil in my horses bucket at feeding time LOL! she never really figured out where all that oil went :lol:



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Originally Posted by mls (Post 477462)
Yes.

Check your hay and your feed. If there is something lacking in your area, please supply it. Over supplementing CAN cause issues as some of the items cannot be readily eliminated from the body.

I know that over supplementing can cause more bad than good, hence why I am kind of asking around. I'm going to be chatting with my vet soon, from what we did talk about over the phone she said that something I can think about is a performance feed since she show fairly havily(SP) during the summer. She didn't give me a specific feed yet but here are some I found locally.

Purina Mills Ultium® Competition Horse Formula
(never knew Purina made horse feed lol)

Purina Mills Omolene #500™ Competition Horse Feed


I usually feed him Platinum Performance (competition) but I can't find it anywhere anymore? does anyone have any suggestions?


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