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lilkitty90 12-06-2009 12:21 AM

How are my horses Hooves Doing??
 
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we had the Farrier out today to do the horses feet and he said they didn't need to be done :shock: so i took pictures and would like to know what you guys think? and also out of curiousity is there anything else you can tell me about her feet. these were all taken today and are all of the same foot.

loosie 12-06-2009 04:02 AM

Hi,

It's difficult to get an idea of things when she's in soft footing. Firm, level-ish ground is the best. Sighting down from heel to toe is helpful too, to better gauge balance, depth & heel height. I don't think your farrier's too far off, but I'd certainly want to give her a go. Especially given the ridgy growth rings & stretched(appears not too bad) laminae, indicating laminitis. I'd be carefully checking her diet & aiming to trim to *keep* her feet in shape rather than wait till they overgrow before trimming.

Her heels look a bit long & underslung. They look like they could be lowered a bit, the quarters need 'scooping'(walls need to be at or near level with the sole rim right around) and the toes backed up, to relieve the walls, prevent the heels being pulled forward, and allow nice, tight, strong growth to grow down.

Looks like she's got a bit of a 'mustang roll' going, esp at the middle of her toe. It's unclear from those pics whether this is enough at the toe, given the stretching, but it needs to be continued right around the walls - the quarters & heels not so strong tho.

Looks likely she has sensitive heels, lives in a soft/wet environ. She's probably sensitive on gravel & rocks? If so, boots and frog support pads may be a good idea in situations she's not comfortable.

A lot depends on management and depends what /where you work & keep her. Info on her management & diet, etc would be helpful if you'd like more info. hoofrehab.com will also give you an idea of what you're looking for/at & help you understand the factors involved in healthy feet.

Honeysuga 12-06-2009 06:21 AM

I have to disagree with your farrier.

I think she(?) needs more bevel or "mustang roll" around the entire hoof and less toe.

Also I agree with just about everything ^^^ posted above and I'll add Barefoot for Soundness to the reading list just so you can understand a little more about the mustang roll and white line separation mentioned above...

If your farrier is a good professional and you voice your opinion on how you want your horses hooves done he/she should have no problem working on them (though they may need a little education about proper bare hooves... and should be willing to humbly accept or go find for themselves this information), If not, you might want to find another farrier...

Good Luck! Keep us posted.

loosie 12-06-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeysuga (Post 481960)
If your farrier is a good professional and you voice your opinion on how you want your horses hooves done he/she should have no problem working on them (though they may need a little education about proper bare hooves... and should be willing to humbly accept or go find for themselves this information), If not, you might want to find another farrier...

Well, sorry to disagree, perhaps being finicky about the above, but thinking about what some owners have requested of me... I'm all for learning & considering different approaches, but I'm in it for the horse and I personally wouldn't just do what an owner opines without deciding if I thought it good for the horse. While I agree, his standards or his knowledge may not be quite up to scratch, I wouldn't like to make judgments on the farrier in question without more info.

horses for life 12-06-2009 09:14 AM

i think her feet are in good condition!!!!

i have a dewarf horse and his feet are good when you keep on track

lilkitty90 12-06-2009 10:29 AM

i don't think he was doing a mustang roll although she is developing one on her on.

the ground isn't always wet was just a dreary rainy day! it's usually pretty dry. and she does excellent on hard dirt and gravel. she is pretty hard Frogs and feet in general.

she lives in a hot summer, warm spring, cool fall and COLD winters. it rains some but it also gets really dry and hot too therefore the ground can get pretty hard. she eats a 4th of a bale of hay i day which is like 4-5 flakes. she gets 2 quarts of 10% sweet feed a day. on the warmer sunny days we ride for a few hours around the farm. or we take them out to the rodeo and ride in the mountains (not in the rodeo) we ride on pretty rough ground and it hasn't bothered her feet any. she is i'm thinking pure mustang so she has some pretty tough feet. the only things we do are pleasure riding. we go trail riding and i ride bareback some. i'd like to get into jumping pretty soon though but we'll see how that goes lol

barefoothooves 12-06-2009 05:43 PM

What I see in the pics; mind you it's really hard to say for sure via internet, no X-ray, etc. Looks like a "sinker" the hoof capsule appears long from the top, short on the sole side, long heels. Looks like she is wearing her own roll perfectly at the toe,about an inch wide area.I would bevel the quarters to that height to match the toe, and the heel should be brought down some.
IMO you should cut out the quarts of sweet feed and add more hay to her diet.
I'm happy to say I don't see a severe thrush infection, but if those jheels aren't broght down a bit, she is likely to have future lameness issues.

loosie 12-06-2009 11:27 PM

Agree with Barefoot that it looks as tho she has 'dropped' or 'sunk' in her hoof capsule, but it appears that she probably has a good bit of concavity(just needs a bit more) & if she's tough footed, that's another indication that it may not be that bad, or as bad as it appears in the first pics.

Interesting that she's fine on gravel, given her (bit)contracted heels. That's great if she is, but ensure she's comfortable enough to land heel first, not tip toeing. If she is, I'd advise boots/pads until she's more comfortable on her heels.

I'd definitely drop the 'junk food' in favour of more hay too. She'll benefit from a good complete supplement too, to provide balanced nutrition.


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