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Tasia 12-13-2009 11:43 PM

help with loping
 
Ok so I have a new riding teacher as of 6 weeks ago the improvements in his walk, jog, circles, and spins are spectacular :D. But some thing is off his lope he bobs his head and every stride feels like he is jumping into a hole of death and its so uncomfortable. I try keeping him round but he just jams aqainst my hands. I do lots of bending and practice of moving off my leg. I dont know whats wrong his lope has always been like this for awhile and I can stand it! What can I do?
Thank you
tasia
I might be able to get a video

Gidji 12-14-2009 05:02 AM

A friend of mine had a horse who's lope was more of a canter. Slowly she tried collecting it into more of a lope. But her head was always bobbing and her stride was off.
I was told that it was because the horse was not used to the slower pace and was tried to balance. After a while, Lacey got used to it and her head no longer bobs and she lopes at a pleasure pace.
I'm not too sure if thats what your horse is doing, but that would be my guess. A video might be helpful :D

PechosGoldenChance 12-14-2009 10:09 AM

I would probably say that it is a collecting issue, but I'm not sure. To get him collected, don't do the technique where you drive the hind end and hold back the front end because in the short run it works great, but in the long run, it will make your horse sour. Instead, walk him a few steps, and turn him 180 degrees (in the opposite direction) and walk a few steps and repeat the 180 degree turn. Do this at the walk, trot and lope. Bobbing the head is always a sign of being uncollected. But just incase, if I were you, I would rule out any health problems first, because that could also be the cause such as arthritis and what not. I hope this helps.

Spastic_Dove 12-14-2009 12:10 PM

Is he actually loping?

Im not sure what discipline you do, but I've rode the really slow WP type lopes that end up being tropes...They always felt like I was falling into a hole.
It's a long shot, but thats what your post reminded me of.

Tasia 12-14-2009 08:16 PM

Well I rein and do WP but I just want a collected lope. I don't think it is anything health wise but I will see next time.

PechosGoldenChance 12-15-2009 10:49 AM

Try out the method I posted above. Thats the right way to get a horse collected.

mls 12-15-2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gidji (Post 489943)
A friend of mine had a horse who's lope was more of a canter.

A lope is western, a canter is english.

For reining patterns it's slow lope or fast lope.

The leaping sounds like he is not getting his correct lead behind.

Allison Finch 12-15-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mls (Post 490961)
A lope is western, a canter is english.

For reining patterns it's slow lope or fast lope.

The leaping sounds like he is not getting his correct lead behind.



Not really. A lope is very different than a canter. My horse canters, and it is no lope, I can assure you. It is not just a western/english difference in terminology like......chestnut and sorrel.

I would guess that your horse is heavy on the forehand and the bobbing head is his way of trying to pull up and lighten his forehand. A collection problem.

mls 12-15-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Allison Finch (Post 490978)
Not really. A lope is very different than a canter. My horse canters, and it is no lope, I can assure you. It is not just a western/english difference in terminology like......chestnut and sorrel.

I would guess that your horse is heavy on the forehand and the bobbing head is his way of trying to pull up and lighten his forehand. A collection problem.

Check the reining patterns.

Allison Finch 12-15-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mls (Post 490980)
Check the reining patterns.

?????


English horses don't have "reining patterns", nor do they "lope".

I am trying to point out that lope/canter are not interchangeable, that's all.


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