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Horsegal16 12-19-2009 01:35 PM

Speedy Jumper
Any advice on how to get a speedy jumper to stop rushing the jumps. Johnny an amazing jumpers but when he sees the jumps, if we are trotting he'll speed up and try to best to break into a canter. And when we are cantering, he trys to lunge ahead when we get close to the jump. Any tips would be great.

Angelhorsegirl 12-19-2009 02:09 PM

I often experience the same situation with my gelding, Cody. It least we know that they love their jobs, right? My horse is pretty funny when it comes to jumping, he will and can jump anything that you put in front of him, depending on his mood. If he is in a really great, excited mood, he'll jump all the obstacles in the ring, flawlessly. Now, if he feels antsy, or irritable, he will rush the jumps, and he will refuse the ones he doesn't rush. When he refuses, he is REALLY tricky about it. He has the speed going, and he acts just like he is going to jump it. So, you loosen up on the reins and believe that he will soar right over...right? WRONG. At the last minute, he bolts off to the left. It's enough to send the inexperienced rider over his neck, luckily, I've adapted quite well and have minimized my falling experiences.

I have never met your horse in person, and you didn't provide much information about him. However, I can tell you this much. The majority of horses tend to get "worked up" or "excited" right before they jump. They will lunge forward at the last second, sometimes leaving you unprepared, to jump. The easiest way to break them of this habit, is simply to tire them out. If you think that your horse is starting to rush, make a circle, don't be afraid, show him that it is NOT acceptable. Also, prior to jumping make sure that you do plenty of cavalettis and trotting in circles, such as figure eights or the likes. This will exhaust him and he will be much better behaved when you jump! :-) Try hard NOT to overwork him, though. Just tire him out enough where he becomes submissive and will respond to your aids.

MIEventer 12-19-2009 03:21 PM

This has been discussed countless times on this forum - so here are threads for you to read through to find your answer:

I could go on and on. Hope that helps.

Horsegal16 12-20-2009 09:54 AM

Thanks guys anymore tips would be awesome . . .hope they work.

Home is where your horse is!!!

gypsygirl 12-20-2009 10:00 AM

do not tire him out....

you need to go back to basics with him & teach him how to jump properly from the pace you want him to jump at. i would start out by putting some trot poles up to an X and work him through that until he is relaxed about it.

another good exercise is to set up a 5 stride line a couple feet short of 12ft strides & practice doing 4,5, & 6 strides down that line.

how high are you jumping him ?

Horsegal16 12-20-2009 10:08 AM

6 inches to about maybe a foot . . .jumps: in and outs, crosspoles, and verticals.

Horsegal16 12-20-2009 10:11 AM

lol that was embrassing posting the same thing twice

jumper25 12-23-2009 06:56 PM

Ahh I know how you feel! My pony Khabi was the same. He adored jumping and even though he hardly ever refused and would jump the moon if you asked him, he had some bad manners when it came to taking the jump. My mom would always get scared because he would just charge at the jump as fast as he could. What my teacher had me do is circle. Every time he tried to rush I would do a circle and calm him again. Sometimes when we got around and faced the jump again he would speed up so I would circle again. It takes patience and sometimes I circled over and over but eventually he would quieten down. Good luck!

MIEventer 12-27-2009 11:11 AM

We wouldn't build a house on a foundation that isn't strong, or complete would we?

No, of course not, that would be foolish right? Why would we want to build a house over a foundation that is incomplete or not done right, knowing that the house will not be stable, strong? We'd just have to go back and do the job over again to get it right the 2nd time.

So - why do we allow our horses to jump, without instilling a strong foundation in them? Horses are careening through the fences, riders are going around without understanding how to keep their horses rhytmic, fluid and round - while yet, just because they get over a fence, they think they are good?

I am left scratching my head with how assbackwards riders are.

There are so many who want to jump, without understand how important a strong foundation is first.

Jumping is Dressage, with speed bumps. The barn I am now at, have primarily H/J's - and the majority of them have no clue how to do Flat Work properly, efficiantly to benefit them while going over fences.

The problem with horses who are too fast over fences, isn't the fact that they "Enjoy" jumping *not all cases* it is that they are not balanced, heavy on the forehand, flat and are permitted to jump - with no basis of a foundation under them.

Allison Finch 12-27-2009 12:01 PM

I always analyze the rider when I see this problem. I find that, more often than not, the rider is causing this problem with over nervous/aggressive/uncertain riding.

When I get a student whose horse is behaving this way, we trot small (2'-2'6) jumps and practice mental relaxation techniques. I almost ALWAYS see an immediate result. Riders don't realize how much they influence their horses by what they are thinking. When a horse gets tense, they get tenser, then the horse gets even tenser....on and on. The rider needs to diffuse this by WILLING themselves to relax, breaking the nervous cycle. Make your mind and body soft.

My favorite quote;
The tenser the horse gets, the softer you ride.

I had a new student who jumped like she was steeplechasing, when she first came to me. The horse charging the jumps like her life depended on it. Within 15 minutes, she was calmly trotting fences, using these techniques.

Don't just focus on the horse having all the problems.

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