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garysheets 01-08-2010 09:45 AM

Where does all the money really go? HSUS
It was pretty upsetting to read and learn where the millions go.
Out of 86 million raised less than $450.000 went to the actual care for the animals.
There is another article that show seized horses in Baltimore were left in the care of the HSUS and were living in worst conditions than what they left.

Seems the business of the HSUS is providing a lucrative living for management and lobbyist but lacking on actual care of animals.

Unpacking the HSUS Gravy Train

kevinshorses 01-08-2010 09:56 AM

The same could be said of PETA and all the other radical enviromental and animal activist groups. Don't even get me started about the "climate change" boloney.

kitten_Val 01-08-2010 12:00 PM

That's exactly a reason I don't donate to such organizations but go to the local reputable rescue and leave feed/medication there.

I've seen in news the registered 403(?) "Feed the homeless" (or something like that) organization basically was just making money for themself for several years in row. And not just taking donated money but also renting out the tables to place all around NYC for $25 a day. Of course now they are being sued and all, but it's just sick. I don't donate money anymore after that. I rather go and buy what's needed and donate (whether it's a rescue or food run).

farmpony84 01-08-2010 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by kevinshorses (Post 515602)
The same could be said of PETA and all the other radical enviromental and animal activist groups. Don't even get me started about the "climate change" boloney.

What? We are having the coldest winter on record in the past 15 years I think they said. I blame it on Global WARMING....:shock:

JumpingTheMoon 01-08-2010 12:34 PM

Yeh I agree, exactly the reason I donate and volunteer with local shelters.

RiosDad 01-08-2010 01:19 PM

One of our local Humane Societies was closed down recently for animal cruelty. 5 or 6 male works were charged. The resources of the society were used for legal aid for the workers????:lol:

sillybunny11486 01-08-2010 01:22 PM

I donate time, not usually things. Even the local "rescue" sells everything you donate, instead of using it for the horses. I was going to send them a turnout coat that didnt fit my horses, but my friend was telling me they just sell it all on ebay or have an auction.

RiosDad 01-08-2010 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by kevinshorses (Post 515602)
The same could be said of PETA and all the other radical enviromental and animal activist groups. Don't even get me started about the "climate change" boloney.

Kevin you had to get my started on "climate change" boloney?? :-)

mom2pride 01-08-2010 08:15 PM

Precisely the reason why I prefer to donate my TIME over anything; I'm even skeptical of adopting pets, after finding out that one of the shelters I had adopted from 1) didn't take in YOUNG animals, but kept hanging onto old, sick, unadoptable ones 2) was actually not conducting proper quarentine time for new animals brought in, even if they were obviously sick. Many of the cats were found to be FIP positive, by the vet clinic I was working with at the time, but they still didn't change what they were doing, and kept housing sick animals right next to healthy ones...

Now, I know this isn't what happens in alot of shelters, but this isn't the first one that I've experienced; two of the ones where I grew up were shut down a few years back, one due to abuse, and the other due to improper care\neglect of the animals.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the idea of rescuing a pet, but after the experiences, and hearing stories over and over about shelters gone bad, I prefer to rescue from a private, small rescue, who isn't in it just for the money. Seriously 400$ for a dog or cat sometimes, from a shelter? I know they need to make ends meet somehow, but considering I know the majority of shelters have a vet that does spay\neuters for a very reduced rate, as well as vaccines for a reduced, sometimes free, rate, you can't tell me they need that much per pet. I can buy a decently bred dog for a little more than that, and I KNOW what I'm getting!

FlyinSoLow 01-08-2010 08:37 PM

HSUS is just PETA in lab coats :D

Although they did give me a ton of information about animal shelters using gas chambers... however while they don't 'apporove' this method of euthanasia they do consider it 'humane' :-|

First they say;
"The most important factor is the humaneness of the method. To be humane, every euthanasia technique must result in painless unconsciousness, followed by respiratory, and then cardiac arrest, and ultimately death."

"Carbon monoxide (CO) gas is, without question, an unacceptable method of euthanasia in states where shelters can legally obtain and administer sodium pentobarbital. In those states where shelters currently cannot legally obtain and administer sodium pentobarbital or procure veterinary assistance to do so, The HSUS considers the use of CO a conditionally acceptable method of euthanasia for some animals, but only when delivered by a commercially manufactured and properly equipped and maintained chamber meeting the criteria outlined below. Only cool bottled, commercial-grade gas must be used; engine or chemically-generated gas is absolutely not acceptable due to impurities and heat, which make its use painful and inhumane."

What? It is humane or it isn't? Make up your minds... oooh thats right it depends on who the money is coming from and how much...

Oh, and this is how Gas Chambers work btw;
(this is from their own site)

"The sound of the gas entering the chamber may create fear in some animals, especially cats. They may become restless or aggressive, further stressing other animals. Because the gas does not immediately render the animals unconscious, they may appear to go through a period of resistance and dogs may vocalize or howl and become rigid. These issues further support the stance that all animal shelters using a carbon monoxide gas chamber for euthanasia should make the transition to euthanasia by injection as soon as possible.
Animals must be left in the chamber and exposed to the gas for a minimum of thirty minutes to ensure death and the chamber must be fully exhausted before animals are removed. Death must be verified for each animal prior to disposal. There are four signs that a technician should check to verify death: lack of respiration, lack of eye reflexes, lack of heartbeat, and presence of rigor mortis. Only the fourth sign, rigor mortis, is a certain sign of death. In rare instances, an animal may appear to lack respiration, eye reflexes, or a heartbeat, but still be alive."

The HSUS Statement on Euthanasia Methods for Animals in Shelters Home

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