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TwisterRush 01-17-2010 10:18 PM

MartinGale's Really Nescessary?
Hi Everyone !

I am on a english tack shopping rampage, and i am going to be doing Jumping with Indigo, so i am really just buying alot of tack LOL. anyway's i see that alot of people who are jumping use martingales.
I am wondering what kind they are using?
Are martingale's REALLLY nescessary?
I do like them, but why are they used?
I know some use martingale's for horses who like to throw their heads, but that is not why i am asking..

So can you answer those questions and tell me why you use a martingale when jumping?

ohsareee 01-18-2010 08:58 AM

Hello! Youre planning to jump your horse? I read a bit of you tidbit about him. I guess its worth a try, but that will put alot of stress on his legs and his is older. But, your horse and your choices, not mine.

Anywho...a martingale is a "training aid". A standing martingale(when fitted properly and used with a stopper) will give a horse a range of head motion to an extent so the horse cannot pull its head straight up in the air and avoid the bit. It is a standard item used over fences in hunters and equitation. I always use a martingale on my horse, because I think that they look akward without one, it breaks up their neck so even though I have an equitation horse who goes on the bit and in a little frame when jumping and doesn't require one, I like to use it for aesthetic purposes. In show manuals it is said that one "may" be used at riders discretion but it is just something most everyone uses over fences, and personally if I was judging, if two horses were equal and one was without a martingale, I would pin it lower. But that is my personal opinion. A running martingale is very popular on the eventing and jumper circuit. It is not allowed in the hunter rings. It works more like draw reins, when a horse is trained properly, the running martingale puts pressure on the bit to get the horse to lower his head and neck and encourages him to go "on the bit". Again, martingales aren't necessary but when schooling, even flatting, I use one. But my horse was pulling a little stunt where he would just shake his head like crazy when he was bored with whatever we were doing. It is a good idea to invest in a standing martingale and even use it when just hacking. Make sure it is fitted properly or it will give no help.

TwisterRush 01-18-2010 01:11 PM

^ thank you :)
That really helped.

I do plan on doing alittle bit of jumping, but im not going to be going really high.
technically he isnt tooo old to jump, there are horses older in the olympics that go much more higher.... than i am planning too.
But either way. thank you verry much (:

Gillian 01-18-2010 01:22 PM

I wouldn't buy or use a martingale for jumping.
Especially if he doesn't need one.

Just my view.

TwisterRush 01-18-2010 01:33 PM

^thank you.

horsea 01-18-2010 03:36 PM

  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gillian (Post 525503)
    I wouldn't buy or use a martingale for jumping.


Originally Posted by Gillian (Post 525503)
Especially if he doesn't need one.

Just my view.

I totally agree! Unless he REALLY needs one, I wouldn't bother to get one. I only use one if a horse is known to rear/buck/be silly :) because they can put a lot of unecessary pressure on their body. I really don't like using them for jumping as well because then they can be restricted from using their body correctly to jump. But that is just my opinion as well.

TwisterRush 01-18-2010 03:49 PM

^thank you guys.
i wouldnt want to buy one if it wasnt really absolutely needed, which was why i was asking :)
they look nice sure, but if i dont need one, i dont want to spend my money on it when i could be buying something else that i do need !

wild_spot 01-18-2010 03:54 PM

No martingale, no matter the type, should EVER be used to draw a horses head down and affect the carriage of the head. Ever.

The ONLY correct use of a standing OR running martingale is for safety if the horse throws or flips its head up in the air. If you are using a martingale to create headset at all, you are using it incorrectly.

I use a running martingale on my little arab - In high-adrenalin situation he sometimes flips his head. The running martingale only comes into effect when you have contact and the horses head comes up to an unsafe level. A running martingale has the advantage of the rider being able to 'switch it off' by lengthening the reins.

The standing martingale, IMO, has no place in the jumping ring. It is illegal in the jumping ring in AUS. It has no way of releasing - It is a solid connection from the breastplate/girth to a noseband. If the horse freaks out, there is no way to release it apart from getting off, getting in the dangerous area at the front of a freaking out horse, and unclip/buckle it.

If you think your horse may get over-excited and flip it's head high enough to be dangerous, then no harm will come of trying a loosely adjusted running martingale. It should have no effect on the reins when the head is at a normal level.

XxHunterJumperxX 01-18-2010 04:04 PM

I, personally, would never, EVER use a martingale, no horse needs it, and no horse has to have one.

It is useless, and I would not plan on ever using one on my horse.

I know two horses, and people just used one on them for fun and because "they needed it" then, they didn't think they could ride without one.

But I also find it unfair to ask a horse to jump, while its face is strapped down to its chest.

My answer = No. Don't get one.

Romantic Lyric 01-18-2010 08:10 PM

No martingale "straps" a horse's face "down to its chest" if it is properly adjusted.

It's all about how the rider uses, or abuses, them.

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