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ChingazMyBoy 01-19-2010 06:39 AM

Equine Jobs?

So yes I'm only in grade eight, but I got myself thinking last night. What do I want to be when I grow up? Simple answer - A vet. Reality, I know that is not going to happen. So I thought about it and decided that I want a job to do with horses. So, any suggestions would be excellent! I know there are some degree's in equine management, but what are they?

dantexeventer 01-19-2010 10:54 AM

If being a vet is calling your name, there's NO REASON whatsoever that you can't do it! Yes, you'll need to get pretty good grades through high school, but that's not as daunting as it seems. I've been out of school almost two years now, and I never made much of an effort - I got honor roll, but could have done SO much better. Now I'm self-studying to do things like retake my SAT and Subject Tests, and I wish I had made the effort in HS because none of it is very hard. You just have to motivate yourself to do well! (Assuming that grades are the reason you thing vet school is an unreasonable dream).
As far as making money as an adult, being a vet is a much more stable career than being a trainer - not to say that there's anything wrong with being a trainer, heck, that's what I want to do!
The equine management degrees aren't worth too much (from what I've heard). Anything you'll learn at a "horse school" you'll learn as a working student, and you won't be paying $50,000 a year to be a working student!! Plus, an equine degree means nothing to folks in the industry - they want to see that you have the know-how and the skills, and that comes from years of working under trainers and BNRs, not college courses. I think college is a great idea (I'm headed there in the fall) as a back-up - if your career is riding, what if you break your back!? A lot of people recommend business, which, at least in the US, you can take with an equine minor or concentration, but I think you should just major in your "next best option." I'm majoring in Musical Theater/English. So random, and I may never do anything with it, but I've been on stage as long as I've been in the saddle, so there you go.
Honestly, though, I think you should be a vet. There's nothing stopping you from doing what you love!!! :) And I'm willing to bet that there are at least a few people on this board who are pre-vet/in vet school who could give you advice. Don't give up on your dream!!

my2geldings 01-19-2010 12:53 PM

The above post is excellent. She is correct. The horse management end of things you will learn yourself by other working in a stable or being a working student.
Otherwise, the ones who make money in the horse industry, are the ones who have proven their riding ability by showing and training horses. Until you do so, there is not much else you can do.

Find yourself a good stable, start off at the bottom and work your way up as your riding improves and you learn more and more.

There is really not much that any of those expensive programs will teach you, you can't learn by simply working the job itself.

Good luck.

Lonestar22 01-19-2010 01:27 PM

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If you want to be a vet then DO IT! Getting good grades just takes effort. If your bad at something, get a tutor. If money is an issue, the go out for every scholarship avalible. Theres financial aid, student loans, and grants. There is no reason for you not to be able to reach your dream. My dream is to open up a clinic with my sister. Both large and small animal. And I'm not stopping until that goal is reached.

dantexeventer 01-19-2010 06:52 PM

There are TONS (and I mean tooooonssss) of scholarships available that most people don't even bother looking for and would thus be quite easy to snatch up. Where there's a will, there's a way! :)

ChingazMyBoy 01-19-2010 11:45 PM

Thank you guys, is it good grades all threw high school, or just simpily grade 11/12. Also what is classified as a good grade to become a vet to you guys?

Gidji 01-20-2010 12:10 AM

Maddie, in year 10 you do School Certificate or whatever you do in QLD. Getting good grades for your SC means you can qualify for the subjects for year 11/12. IE; they might not let you do advanced biology etc if you don't do well in science.
There are certain subjects you must take in year 11/12 to go to uni to become a vet. In year 10, you will receive this massive book saying what subjects you do and what UAI (or whatever marking system QLD uses) you need to get into that course at UNI.

If money is an issue for the course, there is a thing called HECS fees. I'm not sure if its HECS or HEX but its practically where the Government pays for almost all of your course fees and you repay it once you're finished your degree and are earning a certain amount of money. Aim to do really well in your SC and HSC and you may just snag yourself a scholarship.

Horse degrees don't really mean much to be honest unless you want to pursue a scientific or breeding horse career. Equine sciences can be quite handy if you want to start your own stud.

If your vet plan fails, get a job as a working student. It will give you connections in the horse industry and you will learn a lot. I'm not gonna lie to you, its a lot of hard work for little money but you do learn and eventually pay gets better and you could end up being a manager or an instructor. Make sure you get a live-in job, that way you don't have to worry about renting a place.

You could also become an instructor. Once you finish the course, you could be a freelance instructor or get a job at a riding school. Eventually I guess when you get the money, you could start your own riding school.
EA NCAS Coach Accreditation
Thats the link that has all of the instructor's courses info. Make sure you get your course from them. It'll make you more recognised when you become an instructor.

I eventually want to be an instructor/trainer and Mum keeps trying to convince me to get a degree but I'm getting a job in a training facility as soon as I can. Don't give up Maddie, you'll make it big one day and I'll be like 'Yerr I knew that girl on HF LOL' :)

ThatNinjaHorse 01-20-2010 03:02 AM

Everyone has given you really good advice! If your just starting high school theres nothing to say you wont get the grades to become a vet!
My step father knows one of the top equine vets in Australia, and he's always saying theres a shortage of vets specialising in horses, apparently they all want to do small animal work. So theres definitely places available and it pays well!

I dont have much to add, i just thought id give a list of UNIs/colleges that i know of in case you wanted to go down that road, and careers as well. It cant hurt knowing this stuff lol :lol:

UNIs/Colleges that offer equine science/management: (these all have websites btw)
Marcus Oldham
Charles sturt uni
Uni of queensland
Curtin uni
Theres also a bunch of tafe courses, but i know a few people who have done them and i dont think theres much point in doing it.
And of course, theres Unis that offer vet science, especially sydney ones but i didnt include those because i dont know much about it.

As for getting into UNI, they usually start giving you info around yr 9/10, We have ATARs in NSW (used to be UAI) and QLD have OPs. Both are different but can be converted to give students an idea of how they have to go to get into a uni from a different state. If you dont get straight in, based on your OP, there are always many different pathways into uni, they vary depending on the particular one though. But at this stage you dont need to worry about this so much. Just getting through what your doing now.

Anyways, careers: (theres SO many of these, so just a few)
stable manager (and all other positions below this)
University professor
equine photographer
feed research
mounted police
massage therapist

dantexeventer 01-20-2010 03:46 PM

I have no idea how the grading scale in Australia works, however, you do want to have good grades through all of high school - if anything, improving as you go. For example, if you were in the USA and had a B average freshman year and then made it to an A average junior/senior year, that would be great. But vet school is graduate school, not undergrad, so if you get into a decent school for pre-vet you just have to do really well as an undergrad too.

tealamutt 01-22-2010 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by dantexeventer (Post 527445)
I have no idea how the grading scale in Australia works, however, you do want to have good grades through all of high school - if anything, improving as you go. For example, if you were in the USA and had a B average freshman year and then made it to an A average junior/senior year, that would be great. But vet school is graduate school, not undergrad, so if you get into a decent school for pre-vet you just have to do really well as an undergrad too.

You can get great ideas from the school's website (vet school in AU is very different to here, as far as getting in, how long, etc.)

Don't give up on your dream!! I wanted to be a vet since I was about 8 years old. People laughed at me, or told me I'd grow out of it, or asked why I didn't want to be a "real doctor" (humans, ICK!). Anyway I didn't give up and in a little more than 2 years I'm graduating vet school and my dream will be coming true. Stick with it, work hard, most of all DON'T WORRY too much about it, just do well in school, be a normal kid, get some experience and GO FOR IT! best of luck to you.

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