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PaintedBrat 02-10-2010 07:39 PM

BLM Mustangs
 
Im looking into adopting a BLM mustang, any good pointer on what to look for? Im into gameing and all types of performance and im getting into cows. Were would be a good place to get one and what should i really look for?

kevinshorses 02-10-2010 08:04 PM

If you want to be competitive you should look the other way. Very few mustangs are worth the time and expense it takes to get them broke to ride and doing well at anything. If you have alot of experience training horses then you might be okay but you can buy registered well bred horses for only a little bit more than a mustang and they most likely haven't been starved and inbred for several generations like the mustangs.

That being said if I wanted one I would look at the ones from Oregon, Southern Idaho and Northern California. I would NOT get one from Utah. The mustangs here live on very sparse desert and have been more ill managed than the others.

maura 02-10-2010 08:09 PM

ditto, ditto, ditto what kevinshorses said.

In this market, for the BLM adoption fee and the transport you can find a nice well broke horse suitable for pleasure and some local showing.

Most mustang adoptions I'm familiar with did not end well; the ones that did are ones attempted by experienced horsepeople who had started unbroken horses previously, or by people who had the facilities and resources to get help with the horse when they needed it.

chika1235 02-10-2010 08:20 PM

i know a place in kentucky and one in tennessee that has mustangs and starts them for you.all of them are from the blm and they are very gentle.they are the same price as the ones in the blm program.they have all kinds of mustangs there and the mustamgs are alot friendlier than the freshly caught ones.

EPMhorse 02-10-2010 09:23 PM

PaintedBrat,
My avatar is from my Mustang mare. I would not trade her for an $80,000 warmblood performance horse. Her hooves are like steel, she is very healthy, and she has very fine gaits.

Challis came from the Challis, ID herd, and has either cavalry or draft horse in her background. She is larger and bigger boned than the Utah horses.

There is a trainer incentive program from the Mustang Heritage Foundation. Trainers will gentle the horse, and you can get them for the same adoption fee. You can also attend one of the Extreme Mustang Makeover events, and bid on one of the horses that have competed.

There is a definate difference in the psychology of a domestic and a feral born horse. You need to know and understand the difference before you go this route. The Mustangs are very strongly driven by herd behavior. Talk to a trainer, and observe the horses before signing on the bottom line. It's just different. If you have patience, and are flexible, they make a great partner.

Go to the Extreme Mustang Makeover site, look up the trainers near you, and go talk to them. You will need to find a trainer that understands the Mustang. If a person believes they are trash, they will treat and train them like trash. Pick the trainer carefully.

kevinshorses 02-10-2010 09:40 PM

I have it on good authority that the reason some of the mustangs in Idaho are bigger and of higher quality is that some of the ranchers would (or still do) go out and shoot the stallions and put thier own higher quality stallions out with them. The same things happened in Oregon and Northern Nevada.

PaintedBrat 02-10-2010 10:10 PM

I do understand that they are alot of work, and that is exactly what i want. I'd rather have to spend hours working hard to get a horse to trust me then be able to jump on a horse that i just purchesed and have no connection with it.

Breeding isnt realy an issue with me, i dont care if a horse is purebred or wildbred. i just like a sturdy horse with alot of heart.

trailhorserider 02-11-2010 01:53 AM

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The best horse I have EVER owned is a BLM Mustang. No kidding! He is reliable, sane, and respectful. I can ride him in a group with careless people galloping by and he listens to ME. He is the best horse I have ever ridden about listening to the rider and not just following what the horse in front of him is doing.

I can't take any credit for his training though, I bought him already trained from his original adopter. He is from Wyoming, and he is only 14.3 but he is built like a tank. Size two shoes (when he used to wear shoes) and is built a lot sturdier than my neighbor's QH's. I can ride him with anyone and no matter what they are riding, I never feel outclassed because his behavior as good or better than everyone else's horses.

He was also a former roping horse (heeler) and was also used for packing, hunting, and trail riding. I think the secret to his success is that he has had tons of training from his first owner.

The only thing that I notice is "different" about him from other horses I've owned is that his is very careful and self-preserving. He never plows through anything. He wants to check out trail obstacles and make sure they are up to his safety standards! He also took a while to warm up to me when I first brought him home and is more cautious of people in general. But he is so smart and sane and respectful! I love "puppy dog" type horses, but it is really nice to have a horse that respects you this much!

Yeah, I just can't sing his praises enough. Here we are with a wild stud out on the forest. And a few other photos I just had to share. :D I just wish I knew what went "right" with John, because every horse should be this nice of temperment and training. And sturdy! That's my one pet peeve with alot of QH's, they have such small bone and feet on large bodies. My Mustang is a tank!

Honeysuga 02-11-2010 02:01 AM

He is a beauty.

EPMhorse 02-11-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinshorses (Post 548971)
I have it on good authority that the reason some of the mustangs in Idaho are bigger and of higher quality is that some of the ranchers would (or still do) go out and shoot the stallions and put thier own higher quality stallions out with them. The same things happened in Oregon and Northern Nevada.

Kevinshorses,
I think that historically the NW timber industry turned draft horses out with the herd, and then collected the offspring to work. Draft MARES would work better in this fashion than stallions. This would date to the 1880's to the 1930's.

The Challis, ID herd is down to about 240 horses. That is too few to not be inbred. What you said about local ranchers inserting their own stallions into the herds makes sense. Otherwise, in the 20 generations since the timber industry used horses, they would not be sustainable as a herd.


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