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So I witnessed a debat on facebook recently about bits and what is harsher on the horses mouth. Ive always ridden in snaffles. ( fot the most part) With a single 'hinge'? Ive been told the softest bit is a double hinged snaffle. I hope everyone knows what I mean when I say hinge, I mean where they connect. I read that with one it pinches the tongue and can cut the mouth. Other opions were that straight bits are less harsh. Ill be starting a 2 y.o this summer lightly and I want to keep his mouth nice and soft and be easy on him. I ride an arab whos very green in a loose ring snaffle and hes very light and responsive. Im wondering what a good bit might be? Or even just what your opinions are on harsh and soft bits. You can never have too much information and insight :)
The most important element is the rider. It's not the bit, it's the skill and knowledge of the rider's hands. Even a simple snaffle can turn into a torture device in the hands of a thoughtless rider.
As far as greenies go, I would start out with a jointed snaffle. I've never had experience with them pinching or cutting a horse's mouth. I don't like the mullen mouth snaffles because the side rings can slip sideways into the horse's mouth. A French or oval link would be good. I use a single jointed copper eggbutt on my youngster and it works pretty well for him. You might have to experiment and see which bit the horse prefers.
Ride the horse in whatever snaffle you have. The most important part of training a horse is timing your releases. If you give the release at the right time then your horse will learn quickly and require less and less of a cue from the bit anyway. I have never pulled on a horses mouth hard enough to cut the tongue and I would imagine that anybody that did would still be heavy handed even with the magical french link.
Jointed! Thats the word I was looking for! I heard that double jointed are the best. I know that riders with heavy hands can do some serious damage. I had a percheron with the softest mouth and after my friend had ridden her a handful of times she would fight the bit even when I gave her loose rein. Ive always been told to release when the horse gives you its face and its worked pretty well so far. I wouldnt say I have heavy hands. Especially when riding greenies or my arab boy. Hes super sensitive. Anyways as for snaffles I have I believe, a full cheek, a loose ring, an eggbutt, and a d-ring. For non snaffles I have a straight loose ring, and a pelham Ive only used once or twice. I also have some funky western bit I couldnt tell you in a million years what its called. Its got shanks about 5 inches, and a roller?
Full cheeks, D rings and FM/fulmer btis are great for starting greenies as they give a 'push' on the opposite side of the face when you ask for a turn - helping them get the concept of following the bit.
I use double jointed snaffles, just my personal preferance. I have my show horse in a loose ring lozenge type double jointed snaffle, and my freenie in a loose ring myler level 1 comfort snaffle (Basically a double jointed snaffle but doesn't collapse as much, plus has independant side movement).
Sounds like an 80 dollar bit ha ha. I agree with the full cheek thing definetly. I think thats what I started my QH and my percheron in.
Yup, Mylers are pricey, but they are also quality, and I do love them. I picked this one up second hand for $75 - Around here they go for $100 - $150. You guys get them much cheaper :]
i use a double jointed oval mouth (forget the exact name of the bit) bit for cutter and a full cheek snaffle for midnight. i think both are just fine, but i prefer double jointed bits
Yea it was double jointed that everyone was saying was better. That and french link. But I guess it really does all lie in the riders hands. I watched a girl once punish her horse for spooking by see sawing the bit hard in the horses mouth, he bled. It was just an average o-ring snaffle.
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