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Pro 03-15-2010 10:43 PM

Sidepass help!!
 
I'm trying to teach two of my horses to sidepass. They have there abc's but can't put words together yet! Anyway what I have been doing with them is: Asking for a step sideways and holding the pressure until I get one step to the side then I take the pressure off.

I'm running into a problem though. One of the horses move sideways (not the best but he moves both ends almost directly sideways), really easily. The problem is, is you ask and he moves and I release, but he keeps going and going and going! How do I get him to take on step then wait then take one step then wait etc?

With the other one he doesn't really go sideways. It's either forwards, backwards, moves his hind end or front end. I have to hold the pressure for a long time until he takes a sorta sideways step then I release, but it's still not really sideways.

How should i go about these problems? Any suggestions would be helpful. I've really only side passed a horse that knows it.

PechosGoldenChance 03-15-2010 11:07 PM

No suggestion from me because I'm having the same problem with my mare on the fact that she either pivots or moves forwards or backwards. She has only sidestepped like a few times and I'm not sure what to do either, hope you and I can get some good advice here.

RiosDad 03-15-2010 11:36 PM

To start side passing use a gate or any solid object. Put the horses nose to the barrier, open the rein on the side to want to move and push the horse with the other leg behind the girth. So if I want to move to the right I will put the horse's nose to the gate, move the right leg behind the girth and with the right rein sort of move the front end to the right. I don't take one step and then stop. I want the horse to flow away from my leg, not just one step but move /flow to the right. I say WHOA when I want him to stop.
It also helps if the direction you want the horse to sidepass is in the direction of the barn so pick a gate or solid object so when you move sideways you are moving towards the barn.
Sidepassing is easy to teach and within a week a horse should be getting the idea.
Later you start working on sidepassing over objects. That seems to be harder to teach then simple side passing.

Good luck but sidepassing is important to teaching leads

Pro 03-15-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RiosDad (Post 577892)
To start side passing use a gate or any solid object. Put the horses nose to the barrier, open the rein on the side to want to move and push the horse with the other leg behind the girth. So if I want to move to the right I will put the horse's nose to the gate, move the right leg behind the girth and with the right rein sort of move the front end to the right.,

I tried this but he just backs up!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiosDad (Post 577892)
I don't take one step and then stop. I want the horse to flow away from my leg, not just one step but move /flow to the right. I say WHOA when I want him to stop.
It also helps if the direction you want the horse to sidepass is in the direction of the barn so pick a gate or solid object so when you move sideways you are moving towards the barn.Good luck but sidepassing is important to teaching leads

Ok, thanks thats a good idea.

Luckily Sky naturally picks up and changes his leads!!

aintnocitygirl 03-15-2010 11:55 PM

For the horse who moves forward, backward, & never sideways:
If he tends to back up more when teaching to side pass, put his butt to the fence. If he tends to walk forward, put his face to the fence.

(If your going left) Make sure you open your left rein, tip the horses nose slightly with the right rein, open up your left leg, & add pressure with your right leg. Same for going right. Over exaggerate a little & lean to the side your adding pressure to... really helps sometimes if your horse needs a lot of pressure.

For the horse who keeps on sidepassing: Haha.. well that actually sounds pretty cool but I bet its annoying. :? Just add some rein pressure as if your stopping like all other times while riding. If you want to teach him to take one step at a time on cue I would do it this way: Add pressure, stop with reins & voice command, turn a tight circle, & repeat. That might help a little to get his mind on you.

Good luck. :wink:

Pro 03-16-2010 12:46 AM

Thanks. Great ideas for both horses aintnocitygirl. And yes, it starts to bug you after a while when your horse is moving sideways (quite fast) when you've sat down said whoa and have both legs off! It's got to the point where (only on time) he got to a block in his path so he started to go the other way!!! I tried everything to get him to stop, even when I put my leg on to block him. He REALLY goes sideways.
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RiosDad 03-16-2010 12:23 PM

Your horse is trying really hard. I want my guy to flow until I say whoa. I do wear spurs and if my guy keeps on moving after I say Whoa and take the leg off him I bump him with the opposite leg and repeat a strong WHOA.

It is frustrating for them since they are trying to please, think they are doing it right and then you yell at them:lol::lol:

For backing I pump him with both spurs.
I have never put his butt to the barrier but you might try that. I just never had a horse that backed when asked to side pass.

PechosGoldenChance 03-16-2010 12:58 PM

Thanks for the advice riosdad and aintnocitygirl. I'm probably going to head out sometime today, if I have a ride that is, my mom has had my car for a month now! It's extremely frustrating, even though my aunts house is only about 5 minutes down the road, the hills really suck lol

Pro 03-16-2010 01:17 PM

Thanks riosdad! When I go to the barn today I'll try that.
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