Need Opinions! Horse pregnant?
I bought this 18 yr old mare Jan 1st. This is the first horse we have ever owned and are not "experienced"..
With that being said she was in poor shape when we got her, underweight, big belly..which we thought was due to worms.
However, a few weeks ago we had a couple of trainers over to interview about working with her.. to our suprise they both thought this mare was pregnant. Big belly, bagging up, milk veins.
I live in a extremely Rural area and our vet options are limited. I called the local Vet and his response was " just wait and see, you'll find out soon enough". I got ahold of the previous owners and was told that they did have this mare out with a stud last year but they thought she was never going to take as the vet checked her and told them she wasn't pregnant but she was left in the feild with the stud a week after her last vet,pregnancy check.
I found a lady who "supposedly" did equine ultrasounds...She came out and rectaly U/S her for $25 and told me she was not pregnant because she could see that she was building a follicle and getting ready to go into heat. Which I have read that some horses still do when pregnant..?
Well, a week and half later..the horse is in the pasture and I notice she's acting weird. Hanging around by the gate ALL day, acting tired, and "beat down"... and clingy, wanting me to rub her, etc..
She starts acting like she's in pain..panting, biting and kicking at her stomach. This countinues on for about a hour.... Then she goes out in the middle of the feild and lays down for about 5 min. then starts rolling around.. I wasn't sure if it was colic or labor. I called both the vet and the lady her ultrasounded her.. of course the U/S lady said colic, and the vet said if the horse was pooping, peeing, eating and drinking it was not colic...
So I heard about the milk calcium test...I did that and her calcium level was between 300-400 and the Ph was about 7.8
She would be around 305 days..if she is pregnant.
I'm completely confused.....
Any ideas from someone with more experience would be appriciated!!
First I want to say you have a beautiful mare! She definatly looks pregnant to me. I don't know much about the PH levels of the milk but I wouldn't be surprised at all if she were that far along. She still has quite a bit of bagging up to do though so you probably have a few weeks. Thats strange about her colic symptoms - maybe she is having a false labor?
Just watch her really closely and have a vet check if you want to know for sure. Is this her first foal? If so you will want to watch her extra close. At 18 she could have complications.
Equus girl... Thanks for you reply :) I really wish I could get the vet out here to check her! It's driving me crazy,lol!
I don't know what the deal is with this vet.. but he is the only one within a 75 mile radius that does horses, and he is about 80 yrs old...so he doesn't get too excited about anything..if you know what I mean ;)
This poor horse has been through alot of owners in the last several years, so I don't have much history on her..
She is Reg. QH, with Doc Bar breeding and she is not broke to ride...So my guess is that she was used as a broodmare...
The people I bought her from "said" they owned her for 18 months and she had not foaled since they had owned her. Since she is 18, I didn't think there would be any chance she would be pregnant..I didn't think at her age it was possible,lol! Shows how much I know!
I am definitly concerned about her.. and the possible colt, especially since she was so underweight and neglected the first 6 months of her pregnancy... we just bought her Jan 1st..
Yah, thats too bad about the vet, but I have a feeling your mare is pregnant anyway. Likely she has been a broodmare if she is not broke to ride. Thats a good thing - she won't be as likely to have complications.
You could feed her a Mare and foal feed and that would probably help to give her the nourishment she will need for herself and the foal. You will also want to do lots of reading on foaling, so if there are complications you can help her out. You may have to help her yourself if you can't get vets too easily. If she's not a maiden mare though she will have a much easier time foaling I would think.
Does she let you touch her udder at all? If so, you could try squeezing a drop or so of milk out and seeing what color it is. Or if there is even any fluid at all. The milk will turn white a day or so before foaling. If it is just a clear, yellow liquid she is not ready yet. Once she waxes up though, don't milk her. It can make the milk stream out and lose the colostrum for the foal.
Keep us updated on what happens with her! :)
She doesn't seem to mind me touching her udders... her Milk has been white for 2 days now ???
Well, it certainly looks as though you've been taking great care of her! She's beautiful! By the looks of her, I'd say she's pregnant too. Do you know any other horse owners in your area? Are there any breeding farms nearby? If you haven't had much luck finding a vet in your area to help, knowledable owners may be able to give you some advice on nutrition, care, and what to watch for. Do you have a local equine council or other horse related associations? I know NOTHING about breeding so I can't offer much advice other than try to find someone in your area that might be willing to offer some help and guidance. Best of luck!
Is is really milky white, or just more a clear white? Some mares milk is white for longer than others, but all the mares I've watched foal have only gotten the really white milk, right before foaling. Is the milk sticky? Is her udder hard and firm or soft and mushy? If it is firm than she is close to foaling as well.
Also, are her hindquarters and around her tail soft and mushy? Do they feel like jello? If so, she is really close as well.
I agree with luvmyperch - do you know of anyone that knows about the care of pregnant mares and foaling? I'm sure they could help you a lot.
If she's got milk she's more than likely pregnant. Keep an eye on her.
Did the previous owner give you the date when she was ultrasounded, and/or the last day that she was in with a stallion?
Her Milk is White, it is sticky.. I'll post some pictures of it tonight when I check the Ph and Ca levels again.. Her udders are still soft and mushy.
Around Both sides of her tail are soft and mushy ( spongy feeling ) but it is just right beside her tail not "all over" her hind quarters.
They had her U/S on June 18, 2009 BUT they left her out with the stud for another week and never tested her again...they sold her to me Jan 1st.
I checked her Vulva and it is still pink, not red, yet.. I'll try to post a pic of that..
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