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RiosDad 04-28-2010 04:54 PM

The Neck Rope
Let me start off by saying I don't beleive most of you tie a horse up properly. And I beleive that just clipping to a halter is NOT proper.
What is better?? Having a horse try and break loose, running free where ever OR trying and failing??

I live in amish country and I know their opinion. Not a single horse is tied in public without a neck rope. I can go and see 100 horses tied up Sunday morning at the local church and EVERY SINGLE ONE WEARS A NECK ROPE. I have never seen an amish horse tied without one.
I went to the market Tuesday morning and wondered into the horse sheds, the place the vendors and shoppers leave their horse, a parking lot and again every single one is tied with a neck rope.
One horse I was sure was going to fight to get loose, a really high strung Hackney cross. He was a live wire with PULLEY on his bit. The reins ran from the harness, through the pulley to the driver. It doubles his pull. I later talked to him and he told me the horse was 6 and so hard mouthed that he need the leverage to hold him.

Anyway back to neck ropes. I never use a halter and a lead to tie. Always a neck rope. A horse can not break a neck rope, the halter can be a fancy leather one and it won't take the pull, even an old halter is good enough.
A neck rope is 10 feet of soft 1/2 inch or 5/8th rope with a snap on the end. A ring is knotted into the rope so when it is clipped around the neck it is not too tight but not too loose to easily slip over the head. It is used WITH A HALTER.

I have never seen or honestly heard of a hore breaking it's neck but everyone seems to have horror stories of it happening. I tie properly each and every time, treat it as if the horse is going to try and if he does ? So what? Step back and let him.

Anyway this is too poor pictures of how NOT to use a neck rope. One the halter is not done up and the second I am fitting a head stall and should have a halter. Even like this the horse can not break free so if you want to slip the halter and install the bridle the horse is still tied securely.
I don't know of anyone else on this forum using neck ropes but where I live it is the norm.

JustDressageIt 04-28-2010 05:05 PM

I can honestly say I have never seen a neck-rope used in my area. The idea is intriguing, but I would worry about strangulation or the horse breaking its neck - but I am a worrier like that.
What I have read about (Western Horseman) is a similar set-up, but with a cinch around the neck; apparently it distributes the pressure evenly, and you don't get constriction like you would with the neck-rope sliding through the ring.
I personally have always tied with a halter and lead in the conventional sense. Denny has learned to ground-tie, so I don't even bother with him... besides the fact that I mostly groom him in his stall now.

kmacdougall 04-28-2010 05:06 PM

Thanks for posting this, I'm very intrigued. Could you tell me what exactly constitutes too tight? Or is it just a general don't-make-it-tight-enough-to-choke / not-loose-enough-to-go-over-his-head type deal? I have a horse I'd like to try it on, who is a puller, but I don't want to do it if I'm going to do it wrong and injure him..

smrobs 04-28-2010 05:06 PM

I don't use them myself but they are a good idea. The non-breaking factor is one of the reasons why I use rope halters with the lead tied on; no buckles or snaps to give if they fight.

JustDressageIt 04-28-2010 05:09 PM

Duhhhhh.. gosh, maybe next time I should take a closer look at the pictures. I see now that there's a ring so there is no constriction. Oops.... *open mouth, insert foot*
Having said that, I would still worry about a horse perhaps falling.... I dunno. I get the feeling I should stop talking now...

smrobs 04-28-2010 05:14 PM

ROFL Allie. No worries, it took me a minute to see the ring tied in there too. As for falling, I don't think it is any more dangerous than any halter, just more secure.

JustDressageIt 04-28-2010 05:20 PM

Fair enough.
Okay, I'm putting myself out there, for better or worse (*braces*) :
IF a horse falls or gets himself into such a situation where either something on the halter breaks, or he does, I'd much prefer it be the halter. Now, I'm saying this about a horse that would normally tie fine, but gets himself into a bit of trouble (eg: spooks, and slips... or something. Can you tell my coffee has worn off?) -- for a puller, I would look at an alternative LIKE this, but with a wider distribution like I said earlier with a cinch. I will try to find a photo.. it's in a Western Horseman book.

IslandWave 04-28-2010 05:21 PM

I've never seen or heard of a neck rope before. When I read your title I first assumued it concerned how the backyard horse owners here stake out their horse in a field with one end of the rope around their neck and other other end tied to a metal stake.

Very interesting. I guess it would alleviate the need for a halter as most horses I know lead just fine with just a rope around their neck. I can see it as being very useful, especially since it is solid if the horse tries to pull back. I wonder why people don't use it here. It seems like it would be more common with the western riders?

edit:: Just saw your newest post, JDI. ;)
In the situation of either hoe halter or the horse breaking, are you talking about an unattended horse? If a person was there all they'd need to do to is untie or cut the lead rope. However, if you're talking about an unattended horse, then I understand your concern.

smrobs 04-28-2010 05:30 PM

Allie, I actually think that Wild_Spot has some pictures of something very similar to what you are talking about that she used on Latte for a while.

JustDressageIt 04-28-2010 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by IslandWave (Post 618510)
edit:: Just saw your newest post, JDI. ;)
In the situation of either hoe halter or the horse breaking, are you talking about an unattended horse? If a person was there all they'd need to do to is untie or cut the lead rope. However, if you're talking about an unattended horse, then I understand your concern.

I've been in a few situations where a horse has pulled back and the slip knot is not so slippery anymore, or the horse is making such a fuss that you cannot get to the knot. I should really take to carrying a knife with me again.
I can definitely see both sides, mostly I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate.

Smrobs, I must have missed that thread/those photos..

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