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zapchick4 01-21-2008 05:42 PM

Turning, Stopping, and Riding a stubborn barn sour horse
 
I have recently been taking care and riding a friends gelding. This horse wasn't ridden in while and he is very stubborn. They do not have a fitting saddle so we have been riding him bareback. He was english trained once and we just trail ride. He is very smooth and sweet. The few times we have tried riding out of his field he tries to canter back to the stable. I know just hauling on the reins won't stop him. I have tried to turn him in a circle to stop him. When I do that he just turns his head sideways but keeps cantering on. If I pull him extremely hard in a circle I mess with his balance and he trips and almost falls. When we ride in the paddock he just moves up and down this one fenceline bordering the barn. I try to use my crop and legs to get him to the back of the field but nothing works. I sit back and steer but he just jerks his head down and canters back to one corner where he just stands. And when I turn him in a circle to stop he just trips. When he trips cantering I almost slide off. Can anybody help? Thanks so much.

horsecrazy29 01-21-2008 06:13 PM

I would go back to ground work, teach him the 1 rein stop to dis engage his hips.

Will he walk away with a halter and lead line with you or does this just occur when your mounted?

Harlee rides horses 01-21-2008 10:11 PM

Take the horse away from the barn (lead line) and then tie him or hold him wherever you put him that is away from the barn, and you put hay wherever your at and then eventually they might become comfortable away from the barn.

zapchick4 01-22-2008 04:36 PM

Do you think you could find and forward a link on how to one rein stop and disengage his hips. When we lead him we usually tie him up in a place with better grazing. We usually groom him then too. One time he took off and pulled the leadrope out of my hands. He stopped and I caught him eventually. But he didn't run back to the barn. He just ran in a loop around the farm.lol! He is very strong and hard to stop so I haven't tried leading him far. Thanks for the help you guys!

Harlee rides horses 01-22-2008 04:39 PM

When you lead him do you use a chained lead rope? If not I would severely suggest using one on a horse in your case. Whenever your horse decides he is going to high-tail it off to the barn and take you with or with him, is when you pull on that chain and assert your authority as boss and leader, and get it across that he is leading WITH you and not against you and so you can take him anywhere.

zapchick4 01-22-2008 05:11 PM

Thanks. Are those lead ropes expensive?

zapchick4 01-22-2008 05:16 PM

Bits
 
I was also wondering if I should use a stronger bit. I am preety sure I use a D-ring snaffle bit. How strong is that? Should I use a stronger one because he refuses to listen? What is the next bit up?

Harlee rides horses 01-22-2008 05:34 PM

No there not any more expensive than the regular lead ropes. I wouldn't try a stronger bit until.you try the leading if that turns out fine then stick with the bit your using, but if it doesn't work possibly try a harsher bit such as a Tom Thumb.

zapchick4 02-07-2008 07:51 PM

Ya, I tried using a chained lead rope. I didn't seem to make a difference. He just trotted away towing me. I have to give him slack then snap it really hard to stop and turn him. I tried riding him in a different bit. I think it was an eggbut snaffle. I am not sure if it made a big difference because I usually ride him in his field, and I didn't then. He was really full of himself but when my friend stood blocking the driveway he listened better. ( he likes to run down the dirt driveway) I am going to keep working with him. I think he may understand more. He is easier to ride then lead. Thanks for all the suggestions.

saraequestrian 02-07-2008 10:22 PM

d-ring and eggbutt snaffles are just different styles of snaffles. they aren't any different when it comes to how severe they are. I'd using stronger than a snaffle. Talk to an employer at a local tack shop, I'm sure they'll help you out on finding a good bit.

I've seen some people wrap the chain around the halter noseband to better enforce your authority. I couldn't explain it to you as i've never done it before. What i do when my horse gets scared/excited and decides to run is jab my elbow into their shoulder and give them a firm tug of the lead line.


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