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dkordis 05-12-2010 04:25 PM

Hoof trouble, NEED HELP!!!
 
Hello,
I'm really new at this fourm but am more than desparate for some help. My old mare got a cut on her coronary band a while back. It has healed pretty well and grown out onto the hoof now. However, about a week ago she has developed a hole in the back of her hoof on the hoof itself. I thought it was an abcess trying to drain at first but I have been soaking it in epsom salts and there has been no eruption, draining or release of pain. I am worried about what to do. I would really like to treat her at home and save the vet visit as a last resort. If you have any helpful hints as to what this might be, please e-mail me at dkordis@uark.edu I will also send pictures at this e-mail if requested. Thank you all very much.

themacpack 05-12-2010 04:28 PM

Skip the vet and call your farrier - more often than not, they can better diagnose foot ailments and offer much less expensive treatment.

equiniphile 05-12-2010 04:32 PM

Call out the farrier--they specialize in hooves, while vets had the same amount of learning time to learn about every part of the horse

loosie 05-13-2010 01:44 AM

Hi,

Tend to agree with the above... assuming the farrier's any good. Many are nothing like 'specialists' despite how they may talk!:wink: Educating yourself on the anatomy & principles of hoof health is a great idea, not least so you can get an idea of the knowledge & skill.... or otherwise of your 'expert' of choice. hoofrehab.com is a great place to start.

Now for advice on this here, we need a lot more info. Pics are a start. I'm guessing the hole is below where the coronet cut was, guessing it's from that damage and will just have to grow out.

koomy56 05-13-2010 04:30 PM

Could it be a gravel?

A "gravel" is a condition where an abscess, instead of coming out through the bottom of the foot, works its way upward beneath the hoof wall and breaks out at the soft tissue of the coronary band, where the infection drains out. It is not, however, literally a piece of gravel working its way up the hoof. "I find that ‘gravel’ is a regional term for describing an abscess," Bill Reed says. "The farther north you go, they say that a horse ‘graveled’ rather than ‘abscessed.’ "
According to John Burt, "Gravitational force and the way that the foot is constructed make it questionable that an actual piece of gravel can travel up there. Look at the structure of the foot and figure out the gravitational force: It pushes down. When an abscess is created, the pressure is pushing it up the foot."
He reasons, "If you did find a piece of gravel in an abscess, it was driven in from the bottom, and then the abscess itself pushed it up through the coronary band."

dkordis 05-17-2010 04:18 PM

Thank You
 
Thank you all so much for the help! I have done a little more research and am now thinking it is just an abcess or gravel that instead of coming out the sole of the hoof, it entered the cut on the coronary band and has exited the heel of the hoof under the bulbs. I am wanting to do an epsom slat poulitice instead of just soaking it every day. Any hints as to how to make my own and apply it out of epsom salts? I have been looking online but all they talk about are the ones that exit the sole of the hoof instead of the heel where hers is located. Again, thank you all very much!

koomy56 05-17-2010 04:37 PM

You can also smear some ichthammol ointment to draw it out as well. If you think it already burst out the coronet band, and your horse is sound, then its over.

PaintHorseMares 05-17-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dkordis (Post 631483)
Hello,
My old mare got a cut on her coronary band a while back. It has healed pretty well and grown out onto the hoof now. However, about a week ago she has developed a hole in the back of her hoof on the hoof itself. I thought it was an abcess trying to drain at first but I have been soaking it in epsom salts and there has been no eruption, draining or release of pain.

Is she lame? and is the hole down from where the coronet band was cut? If the coronet band is damaged (from where an abcess drained or an injury), there will be some deformation/weakness from that spot when the hoof grows out (similar to what happens to a nail from a damaged a cuticle). Often this will look like a hole or horizontal crack.

loosie 05-17-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dkordis (Post 636126)
thinking it is just an abcess or gravel that instead of coming out the sole of the hoof, it entered the cut on the coronary band and has exited the heel of the hoof under the bulbs. I am wanting to do an epsom slat poulitice

Hi,

Abscesses don't do that, if I understand what you mean correctly - again, pics would help. If there was an abscess on the coronet band, it would have *caused* the 'cut' or hole there. That would be where it burst. Sometimes these exit holes can get infected with opportunistic bugs, which would be likely to turn the hole into a crack as it grew down/out.

If the other hole on her heel is also an exit hole from an abscess - again, just educated guess - this is another, separate abscess, nothing to do with the first, except considering that they may both be an indication of major hoof illness. Abscesses do come about 'just because' as one offs from stone bruises or such, of which the heel one could be from, but if the horse is prone to them and particularly when they appear at the coronet, this is possibly just the small 'symptom' of a bigger problem. Again, that's why pics & more info - on feeding, lifestyle, environment etc would be good.

If the abscesses have already burst - there are holes - then you don't need to poultice or soak. That is what you do to help the abscess burst. Instead I'd be using something mild such as ACV and packing the solar hole (if it's in the sole, not frog) with something like that clay(sorry, forgot the name) for a few days, to keep infection at bay until more horn material can grow from the corium.

dkordis 05-18-2010 12:43 PM

Ok I have posted pictures of her hoof in my album called hurt hoof. I hope it helps. Thank you all so very much for helping me out. I really just want her to feel better. :cry:Let me know what you think might be wrong with her. Thank you all!


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