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sorelhorse 05-14-2010 11:18 PM

Confo critique: Zippie AQHA/APHA/AjPHA gelding
 
This is my horse Zippie. he is a western/english pleasure show horse. Please critique him:) thx.

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his eye is very weird...lol

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sorelhorse 05-14-2010 11:19 PM

sorry bout the pics being so big:(

kmacdougall 05-15-2010 08:50 AM

I'm sorry but I have to step in and be a bandage nazi - WHO taught you to wrap polos?! Your blue polos are on extremely wrong, are you aware you can do serious damage to the legs of a horse by applying bandages the wrong way?

Cinnys Whinny 05-15-2010 09:54 AM

Beautiful horse. In the first picture he looks just a tad "knee over" and a little too straight for my liking in the pasterns, but not that bad. Just watch because this can put a little extra stress on that navicular bone. It looks like you are doing western pleasure so not much of a worry. If you were jumping or barrel racing I would be a little concerned.

I agree with the polo wraps. My very first horse, a little arab, when I was ten bowed a tendon because I thought I was going to be "cool" and put polo wraps on him. Did it completely wrong, barrel raced him and bam....bowed tendon. I would have someone show you the correct way those go on.

sorelhorse 05-15-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny (Post 633961)
Beautiful horse. In the first picture he looks just a tad "knee over" and a little too straight for my liking in the pasterns, but not that bad. Just watch because this can put a little extra stress on that navicular bone. It looks like you are doing western pleasure so not much of a worry. If you were jumping or barrel racing I would be a little concerned.

I agree with the polo wraps. My very first horse, a little arab, when I was ten bowed a tendon because I thought I was going to be "cool" and put polo wraps on him. Did it completely wrong, barrel raced him and bam....bowed tendon. I would have someone show you the correct way those go on.

yes his pasterns are very straight. weve worried about the possibility of navicular also, but we have put egg bar shoes on him:)

sorelhorse 05-15-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kmacdougall (Post 633934)
I'm sorry but I have to step in and be a bandage nazi - WHO taught you to wrap polos?! Your blue polos are on extremely wrong, are you aware you can do serious damage to the legs of a horse by applying bandages the wrong way?

so please tell me the "corect" way.

kmacdougall 05-15-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sorelhorse (Post 634193)
so please tell me the "corect" way.

It is near impossible to describe this to you on the internet, but I will try my best.
First of all, you must start with the end of the polo on the inside of the leg, about 2 inches down from the knee. Wrap across the front of the leg, (never start in the direction that would require you to wrap across the back.) Maintaining even tension, continue down the leg. You want to dip slightly across the inside of the pastern, coming over across the back, and then pulling in an upward direction, to create an upside down "V" in the front of the leg. Continue wrapping at even tension, going up about a half polo-width per turn. Carry on to just under the knee, then wrap back down about 2 inches. The velcro on your bandage must be securely fastened across the front of the cannon. If it is in the back, or either side, it is creating pressure and is dangerously damaging the tendons of your horse. If you cannot get your bandage to conform to these parameters, you are using the wrong size bandage. Most fleece can be easily cut if too long, but if too short, you need to buy new ones.
These are basic directions but please, if you love your horse, don't bandage unless someone with bandaging experience assists you a few times first. Trust me, polos applied incorrectly are doing more damage then your horse knocking against his own legs. If you're hell bent on protecting his legs and don't have lots of bandaging experience, stick with boots.

ETA: the polo on his left foreleg is wrapped in the wrong direction, pushing the superficial digital flexor tendon (which runs down the back of his leg) to the outside. This is MAJOR TENDON DAMAGE!!!!!! Please don't ever do this, and, as long as he's not lame now, you'll be okay. However polos are full on skin contact and they don't give that tendon the opportunity to move when wrapped at the right consistency. This is a cause of bowed tendons.

kmacdougall 05-15-2010 06:06 PM

Here:

you can clearly see the upside down "V" as well as the CE brand on the end of the polos, which is in the front of the legs. I hope you'll learn to bandage and bandage well because it's a great skill to have. :)

https://vickerswesternstore.net/cata.../25CEPOLO4.jpg

sorelhorse 05-15-2010 06:42 PM

hey thanks for the info:)

though i was always taught to go all the way down the leg because the point of a polo wrap is to protect the tendons-arent there tendons on the bottom of the leg also?

also-the part where you said "Wrap across the front of the leg, (never start in the direction that would require you to wrap across the back." maybe im misunderstanding your words, but if you wrap across the front of the leg, doesnt that pull the tendon outwards? i always thought you wanted the tendon to be wrapped inwards.

but other than that i found your article helpfull and will definitly do better with the wraps:)

kmacdougall 05-15-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sorelhorse (Post 634287)
hey thanks for the info:)

though i was always taught to go all the way down the leg because the point of a polo wrap is to protect the tendons-arent there tendons on the bottom of the leg also?

also-the part where you said "Wrap across the front of the leg, (never start in the direction that would require you to wrap across the back." maybe im misunderstanding your words, but if you wrap across the front of the leg, doesnt that pull the tendon outwards? i always thought you wanted the tendon to be wrapped inwards.

but other than that i found your article helpfull and will definitly do better with the wraps:)

Ok. If you start on the inside of either leg and wrap across the front you'll be turning the tendons inward on both legs, which, you are correct, is what you want to do. As for the issue of how far down to wrap them, you want to just cover the pastern. If you go lower, the shape of the leg is going to make tightening the polo and keeping it from sagging impossible.
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