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Cinnys Whinny 05-15-2010 10:21 AM

Confused about Confo pics
 
Wasn't sure where to put this, but this category seems like the most likely.

Anyway, I see a lot of people posting pictures, including myself, asking for critique of their horses conformation, etc. And lot of people reply back that the horse needs to be squared, isn't standing in a position where it could be critiqued, etc etc. However, when you go to say AQHA's website and look at their documentation and charts on conformation, most of the time you get a horse pictured that is NOT squared. So now I'm confused...

Ok I know a FLAT and preferably HARD surface is desirable. I know standing up straight and not stretching out, turning etc.... is also necessary, but what more? Is it enough to have the horse positioned like in the examples on AQHA that allows for them to be straight but not necessarily squared, or do you HAVE to have them totally square as some people say?

I want to take some better pictures today so I can get some really good opinions of my horse basically as in his shoulder angle, knees, cannon bones, etc. I haven't decided on his "occupation" yet and I am hoping to get some opinions before I start "finishing" him for whatever he is goinng to do.

Where I board, there isn't really a "flat" surface let alone solid ha ha, and it's all covered by grass so it hides the feet. I could put him on a mat, but still it wouldn't be perfectly flat.

Thanks for your help.

Cinnys Whinny 05-15-2010 01:14 PM

Wow, I really thought I'd get something on this question lol

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PechosGoldenChance 05-15-2010 01:41 PM

Well I can understand where you are coming from, but I can also understand where other people are coming from when they say they would like a horse to be squared up. If you want the best confo people can give, it IS best to have the horse squared up. If a horse is not squared up than it can alter the way he really is, conformationally, and you could get a false conformation. Thats the only reason I can think of.

But I also see your point as well. It does seem silly that even on here people want you to have your horse squared up for a picture when a lot of people dont do it, but like I said...if you want the best conformation critique than you should try and get your horse squared up. I can't wait to see more pics!!!

Nikki

Cinnys Whinny 05-15-2010 02:12 PM

Oh, I also wanted to know if people want frong legs, back legs, head profile, etc etc.....

Iseul 05-15-2010 02:25 PM

it's usually front, back, left side, right side-all while the horse is squared, and possibly videos of him/her lunging w/t/c on a reletivly hard, level surface. it's not needed, but it just makes it more accurate.
he front legs will show with the front view, as with the back showing in the back view.
headshots aren't necessary, since truthfully, most horses have a decent head and don't have all their conformation flaws there, IMO
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justsambam08 05-15-2010 02:26 PM

I would say front and back legs, but not a head profile. You should be able to get that idea from a side view of the horse.

But yeah, my general opinion is that the horse has to be straight, but not square....As long as he's not like splay legged or anything, one back leg being slightly more forward than the other isn't going to REALLY affect a conformation shot.

dantexeventer 05-15-2010 03:03 PM

The best picture for critiquing is like this:
http://www.shelbournefarm.com/images...s/cruising.jpg
Although preferably with the head facing forward, so we can see how the throatlatch ties in.
This way, the critiquer gets a good look at the angles of the legs, as the closest two are square, but the farther ones are also visible. The picture is directly from the side, so we can accurately comment on the back and shoulder angles and length.

themacpack 05-15-2010 03:08 PM

While the horse doesn't have/need to be perfectly squared, the fact is that most of the pictures posted asking for critique are as far from useful as possible, which is what leads to the comments about needing to be more critique-able.

PechosGoldenChance 05-15-2010 07:57 PM

The picture of that horse is exactly what we are looking for.

Honeysuga 05-15-2010 08:18 PM

No it isnt. With the legs not squared it makes him seem sickle hocked and under himself. They need to be square so you can see the horses true angles and proportions. A horse standing unsquare can look off in so many areas when he is just fine. The pics on AQHA are not for critique, I have no idea why they have them so caddywhompus, makes them look even more bum high then they really are....


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