Dunskin? Buckskin and dun in one?
Can a horse be both a buckskin and a dun? I have no pictures, but that's what this person said their horse was... o_O
yeah..i'm sure someone else can explain (coz I can't) but it's possible. :3 I'd actually like one of my own, since it's a mix of my two favourite colours. :D
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Yep, absolutely possible. They are caused by two seperate genes - Buckskin is caused when a bay has one copy of cream, and dun is a completely seperate gene.
But wouldn't it still look like a buckskin? I'm just confused, lol. Can anyone find a picture of what it would look like?
Oh, this isn't a horse I saw. My friend saw it, and told her it was a "dunskin," and she said it looked like your average buckskin.
A buckskin is basically a dun without the black points. Just like brown is basically bay without the black points. Two seperate genes. If it was a "dunskin" it would be a dun...I mean, honestly. It's like those "Designer Dogs" that are "Labradoodles" or "Goldendoodles." And now its invading the horse world. Ugh.
Another example. Tri-Colored paint. Eh. No again. It's a Bay Paint. No such thing a tri-colored, no matter how cool it would be.
Edit - I know there are several shades of Dun and Dun Dilutes. Red Dun, Golden Dun.....and Grulla is a dilute, but still if it was combined it would more than likely be classified as a dun, considering the fact that buckskin is sandy and there are sandy duns too. Any of the Dun colors combined with bUckskin would either be a dun or a buckskin. Examples:
Red Dun w/o points - Sorrel/Chestnut.
Grulla w/o points - Grey
Golden Dun w/o points - Buckskin.
Add black points to almost any color except brown and you get some sort of dun. Bay is the other color with black points. Differance is, bays don't have the stripe on the back. Another Dun definition.
I looked online and found this:
Google Image Result for http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g161/defrostindoors/equine_science_health/dunskin.jpg
Apparently It's black + agouti + cream + dun. I'm not for or against this information since I'm not a color expert, but I'm presenting what I found when I typed in dunskin.
That's....very strange. I've never seen a horse colored that way.
Okay, so there is a color for it. I can stand corrected. However, I don't think its a combination of the two colors. Very interesting....
A buckskin DOES have black points. The cream gene cannot dilute black hairs in it's single form - So only the red coat on a bay is diluted, leaving the black points. Only in it's double form can cream dilute black hairs - If on a bay base, it becomes a Perlino, similar to a cremello but with slightly darker mane and tail.
A dun has the diluted coat, same as a buckskin, but what makes it a dun are primitive markings. They can be quite pronounced or almost invisible. These are leg/wither barring, a dorsal stripe, and counter shading. They may have some or all of the primitive markings.
It IS possible and documented via genetic testing that horses can carry both one cream gene and the dun gene, genetically making them a dunskin.
They generally look just like a buckskin, but may also show some or all of the primitive markings.
The only way to tell for sure is getting them tested.
Genetically tested Dunskin (Black + Agouti + Cream + Dun):
Thank you wild_spot! Helpful as always. =] I'll be sure to pass on the information to my friend.
Another question: If my bay filly had zebra stripes, would she be a dun, or a bay with stripes? She has a dorsal stripe, and the connection of black legs to brown body is pretty unusual, not like any other bay horses I've seen. Dad is a dun with zebra markings, mom is a bay. Just curious. =]
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