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horseanimal11 05-19-2010 08:30 PM

"Piano hands" from crop?
 
Before I started riding with a crop, my hand position was always fine. The way I hold the crop now forces my crop hand to be a "piano hand", and my inner symmetry lover adjusts the OTHER hand to do the same. I only have this problem when I use a crop. So I'm wondering, how exactly should I be holding the crop, and where should the end rest?

Rule of Reason 05-20-2010 08:59 AM

If you look, I bet you'll see that your crop is actually pointing out to the side. You want it to be pointing backward, over your thigh.

maura 05-20-2010 09:21 AM

I'm confused. I was also taught to carry a crop straight down over the horses shoulder, which should not interfere with your hand position.

Carrying a crop over your thigh could cause piano hands, but it also causes the crop to move and bounce a lot, which is distracting to the horse.

If you're truly riding in the piano hands position, your crop would stick out sideways, as Rule of Reason mentioned.

koomy56 05-20-2010 10:07 AM

If you want to help fix piano hands you can use your crop to your advantage. :) This has nothing to do with your question, though I see it fitting here. hehe
Put the end of 2 crops through a belt loop on the side of your pants and hold the crop/whip normally with your reins. With the end of the whips through the belt loops is makes you hold your hands and wrists correctly.

Pro 05-20-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koomy56 (Post 638870)
If you want to help fix piano hands you can use your crop to your advantage. :) This has nothing to do with your question, though I see it fitting here. hehe
Put the end of 2 crops through a belt loop on the side of your pants and hold the crop/whip normally with your reins. With the end of the whips through the belt loops is makes you hold your hands and wrists correctly.

This is close to what I was taught, except we didn't put it through belt loops, we rested both crops on our legs a little more lower than the belt line.

It's a great trick, that helps with your hand position, because every time your whips aren't on you, your not "correct". It's great for when your by yourself.

I think it's a little harder then the other method, because you still have to make the correction yourself, it's not just held in one place.

horseanimal11 05-20-2010 05:10 PM

Thanks!
For some reason, my instructor kept telling me to put the end of the crop on my knee (?) which made my hands tilt sideways.
So carrying it down over the horse's shoulder makes a lot more sense... ya. I knew I wasn't supposed to have to bend the crop... lol :lol:

Cougar 05-22-2010 03:59 AM

I have little hands and a lot of crops are too thick causing my hands not to piano hand... but get too wide? and turn into paws? I don't really know how to describe it but I had to find a crop with a smaller width of a handle. Possibly your issue?

Allison Finch 05-22-2010 05:38 AM

carrying a crop and a dressage whip are very different. A dressage whip should fall on your thigh, between your hip and knee. The crop should be down near the hors'e shoulder. That does not mean you ever use it on the horse's shoulder, though.

maura 05-22-2010 04:59 PM

Good point, Allison.


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