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justsambam08 06-21-2010 04:20 PM

Hunters bump
 
This would be a question for all of you anatomy gurus.....

I believe Ice has a hunters bump. His right hip bone feels just a smidge higher than his left, its not noticeable unless you put your hand right on his butt. From my research, a hunters bump is basically an old tear in the ligaments that hold the spine and pelvis together. Usually by the time its found, the injury is old and healed? Although Ice was never a jumper, tears can also be caused by slip and fall accidents, which since he was a racehorse, could have happened. While the bump is never hot, it does get more prominent with long trotting sessions.

Ice also holds his tail out at the trot. Not up, which would mean he's happy, just out. My understanding of that is that it generally means that his back is out of alignment. However, he has done this since I've had him, and the chiro has checked him over twice, as well as myself feeling for any abnormalities, and we've found zilch. So my question is, could the hunters bump be causing him to hold his tail out? While he's never been lame on his back end, I'm wondering if this could hinder his ability to use his back correctly.

iridehorses 06-21-2010 04:23 PM

A hunters bump is in the spine. It is an abnormality in the last section of vertebra.

justsambam08 06-21-2010 04:27 PM

The Horse | Dropped Hip/Hunter's Bump

In the 4th and 5th paragraph it says that it could cause the pelvis to shift out of place.

iridehorses 06-21-2010 05:59 PM

http://www.jwequine.com/pdf/hunters-bump.pdf

justsambam08 06-21-2010 06:09 PM

I believe the third opinion (from Illustrated Atlas of Clinical Equine Anatomy and Common Disorders of the Horse) supports my definition, and the first opinion (from Equine Research’s Veterinary Treatments & Medications for Horsemen) supports yours.

Regardless of the definition, since there obviously a bit of confusion as to what exactly it is based on that article, my question would still be valid.

I believe in the sidebar of the pdf (I always hate reading medical journal articles for their endless citations) it even said that some of my concerns were common findings?

iridehorses 06-21-2010 06:25 PM

I think that the hip can be effected but it would have to be accompanied by the irregularity of the spine.

justsambam08 06-21-2010 06:42 PM

Thanks. The more I read the article, the more it said exactly what I didn't want it to say....if Ice in fact does have a Hunters bump, or not a hunters bump, but a rotated pelvis. Or whatever he may have that causes one hip to be higher than the other, and get more pronounced with work.

I should also note that he does not flinch or shy away when pressing down directly on it, from the ground or from the saddle.

Anyone seen/have experience with this? I can get a picture of his back if its wanted.

Ray MacDonald 06-21-2010 07:04 PM

That would probably help, being able to see it, not that im a professional by any means lol

justsambam08 06-26-2010 08:49 PM

Just an update, we had the massage therapist/chiropractor out again, and after looking at it, feeling on it a little bit and watching him walk, she decided he might have actually broken his tail at one point, if thats at all related to whats going on with his hip...could be the same accident with multiple injuries, could be one injury aggravating/exacerbating the other. She gave me the number of her friend who is much more comfortable with skeletal/chiro work than she is. I'm going to give her a call when she gets back in town on the 1st and see when she can come down to give me her opinion.

On another note, I now have a long term temporary job with the possibility of turning permanent, so I'll definitely be giving the vet a call as well to schedule some xrays of his legs.

agracefulwillow 07-06-2010 01:56 AM

My mare has never jumped, she is 5 years old, i have just noticed that she has formed a hunters bump but don't know how she would have got it. She recently foaled and i was wondering if the labour could have cause the bump. does it cause lamness in the future will it affect her?


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