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jdanny21 06-29-2010 09:31 AM

Pulling back and passing out
 
My horse recently started this new thing when he spooks while tied. I always tie with a quick release knot but the last 2 times he has pulled back, he tightens it down and all I can do it either cut it or wait until he stands back up.
He has never been a pull back horse and I am hoping he will come through this. It started when the farrier got after him in the cross-ties. Anyway, he sits back and he seems like he is passing out. I have to make him come to and hope that he doesn't come out of it thrashing.

Any insight on this issue would be very helpful. He is a 16.3 hand 3 year old TB, never raced started as a yearling race horse prospect. Really pretty reasonable horse.

Thanks

Curly_Horse_CMT 06-29-2010 10:35 AM

We have had several horses that would pull back while tied; our one APHA mare would literally pull out sections of fencing before she would give to the pressure :-| One of our boarders is a "pull back" horse. I have never heard of them "passing out" but it is sure possible...

Do you have the option of tying him to a inner tube? That way he would have the give but wouldn't be able to get away or have the option of passing out.

Northern 06-29-2010 12:32 PM

You can look at many archive threads on this problem, both here & on other horse forums.

barrelracer892 06-29-2010 12:39 PM

One of the horses at the stables I work at has that issue. We always cross tie him.

dressagexlee 06-29-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by barrelracer892 (Post 674763)
One of the horses at the stables I work at has that issue. We always cross tie him.

The problem with cross ties is that if a horse pulls back in them, they can actually flip over.
There's a mare I school down at another barn that can only be tied in the cross ties, but it's because she had a bad experience with regular tying. But I fear for the OP's horse because he started pulling back after a bad experience in cross ties, so he could potentially pull back in them.
Of course, if there is a wall close behind where the cross ties are, he may be discouraged from pulling back.

barrelracer892 06-29-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dressagexlee (Post 674799)
The problem with cross ties is that if a horse pulls back in them, they can actually flip over.
There's a mare I school down at another barn that can only be tied in the cross ties, but it's because she had a bad experience with regular tying. But I fear for the OP's horse because he started pulling back after a bad experience in cross ties, so he could potentially pull back in them.
Of course, if there is a wall close behind where the cross ties are, he may be discouraged from pulling back.


Yeah we had a horse almost flip over in the cross ties. Never had one successfully do it though. That's a good idea-- to put a wall behind them. I may have to suggest that to my boss!

MyBoyPuck 06-29-2010 07:31 PM

I am not one to pedal marketing crap, but have you seen that no pull tie ring that Clinton Anderson markets all the time? It's one gadget that looks like it's worth the expense for such a potentially dangerous situation.

franknbeans 06-30-2010 06:47 AM

One of mine used to pass out, but it was from the cribbing (yes, miracle!) collar. He would walk out of his stall, stretch his neck and pass out. Only happened a couple of times, vets did all sorts of tests, and came to the conclusion it was the collar. If your horse passes out, you KNOW it. It is VERY scary. There is no "I think......" It is for sure!

Zeke 06-30-2010 01:15 PM

" Do you have the option of tying him to a inner tube? That way he would have the give but wouldn't be able to get away or have the option of passing out."
^ sorry, the mobile version of this site won't let you quote :p

I'm curious as to what you mean by this and how you set it up. Being tied to a bright squeaky plastic thing would freak some of the horses I know but the "give" they have is an interesting concept.
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