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.Delete. 02-12-2008 10:40 AM

Quarter Horse Movement
Give me your opinion on how/what they move by. It is genetics? Or can it be changed?

I feel that the big time horses (im talking quarter horses because that what i do) are too big for their own minds. They don't understand their own limits or where their feet are. All they know is to move according to what they are allowed to do. English horses the big 17hh horses i find move over themselves. They are certainly too big for their own thinking. Breeders are breeding only for height now. They are forgetting about the horses mind. Like for example. Invest, Art, and Invitation are all nice bloodlines. They are HUGE. But you notice when you see them shown English, they are moving way too much over themselves. They move ah-head of their thinking. Personally i like the Zippo bloodlines because those horses move to themselves. They seem to understand where and how they are moving. Invest, Art and Invitation seem to just move without thinking. What i found changes that is groundpoles. It forces the horse to think about where its feet are. Also it forces the horse to carry itself better. So, what if you have a horse that moves over itself? It makes sense to me that groundpoles could fix that.

FGRanch 02-12-2008 10:49 AM


I agree that ground poles would fix this problem. I don't agree that the bigger the horse the better. We do not breed for height.

Our stud stands, 14 3hh
Kita-14 2hh
North 15 hh
Tana-14 2hh
Nita-15 2hh

So I don't think this is a problem in Quarter horses but rather taller horses.

Sara 02-12-2008 10:49 AM

I'm not sure I understand your meaning. Can you maybe post some video examples?

.Delete. 02-12-2008 10:56 AM

Im not talking about small breeders. Im talking Congress Horses. Quarter Horse circut horses. The ones the win every class they go into.

They are too big for their own minds.

JustDressageIt 02-12-2008 11:42 AM

My last horse stood 17.1hh, and he definitely knew where all 4 feet were.. especially when he bucked. It's true that the trend is saying "bigger is better!" and it's too bad! I had a lovely 15.3hh TB mare that (after years of training) knew her job - I could get on her and ride her med. level dressage and jump 3'6" - 3'9" and then turn around, plunk a kid on her and she'd do this nice lope around a cross-rail hunter course. One problem with her: she wasn't 16hh+, so nobody wanted her. Perfectly good mare in the prime of her life (I was selling her when she was 9-10 years old) and I had to knock her price down drastically because nobody wanted a small horse.

I agree, QHs that are bred for height don't know where their feet are - that's because their ideal height is between 14 and 16 hh, not over 16hh. Their breed essentially doesn't know how to cope with a taller height, as they've always been 14-16hh (with the odd exception), and then some stupid breeders said "oh well... let's breed big!"
However, breeds that have been taller for quite some time (without having it bred into them in the past decade) I find move within their bodies much more than the tall-type QH.

Did I make sense?

tim 02-12-2008 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by .Delete.
They are too big for their own minds.

I like you and all delete... but that doesn't really make sense... :?

horse_luver4e 02-12-2008 02:58 PM

I agree I don't like the HUGE horses ya know like the 16hh-18hh horses. I like little horses! hehe my horse is 14.3hh. I'm short so I like my horses short! :D

AKPaintLover 02-12-2008 03:49 PM

Why is it that horses in the 15-16hh range are no longer popular? What do the 16hh+ horses offer that is better? Are they more athletic? Are they better jumpers? I have seen some pretty good jumpers in the 15-16hh range. I also believe things like cutting, reining, roping, penning are better suited to more compact horses - is that not true? Is the 16hh+ thing more for WP and halter horses? Jumpers? Dressage?

Someone who knows about this new fad, please enlighten me. All of my horses are 15hh, and I personally really like that height and anywhere up to about 15.3. After that, I feel really weird sitting up so high. :) The two 16hh+ horses that I have ridden were fairly clumsy and made me feel nervous that they were going to fall on their face...they may have needed some work to get better balance/rhythm/collection, but I still have not felt that way on shorter, inexperienced horses.

tim 02-12-2008 04:17 PM

Well, the only reason I like taller horses is just personal preference.

Firstly, I'm 6'1" so I kind of look funny on short horses. I also find taller horses more comfortable because of my height.

They do have a certain presence. When a tall horse walks into the arena, you're distracted immediately by it.

I can only assume other people feel the same way, but honestly, I don't really notice much of a fad. It doesn't seem to be more prevalent now than it ever was before. I do know what you mean though delete about the hunters. Especially the Artifacts horses like Indian Artifacts and his offspring. They're very tall but they extend well for hunter because of it.

.Delete. 02-12-2008 07:08 PM

Ok its like a draft horse that thinks its a puppy dog. They don't realize how big they are and what they can do. They just throw their weight around. They don't comprehend where their feet are. Their minds are always behind their own movement. Its like they can't keep up with themselves. They completely forget what their feet are doing and they only move when and where their rider tells them to. They don't think before they move. They don't know their own limits. Does that make more sense?

Sorry but i can't even view videos on my own computer so i couldn't give you an example.

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