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So ive been looking at 'classical' dressage more, you know, youtube, reading books, and stuff, all that, WELL anyways, I was reading a book, and she said stallions can sit more and stuff, but do you guys know any classical trainers who ride mares? I looked on youtube, but couldnt find any.
And why do they mostly/only ride stallions? haha besides theyre moody times, and not very reliant on a 100% performance each day, lol.
:lol: I just had to ask, its driving me nuts, because i have a mare! lol
I'm not sure it's very related to "classical" dressage, but that amazing gray horse Andreas riding (clips are all over youtube) IS a mare. :) May be because they are very moody? I do agree though - stallions definitely seem to be very popular in high level dressage.
But if you think about it from other side, when very successful stallion is retired you can always use him for his natural purpose - pop up talented babies. :lol: At least I'd think it would be a way to go (would love to hear if it's not true and why so).
Ya thats a good point, they could use them for babies, lol. But mares can make babies too, And IMO influence the foal more then the stallion, with the whole nature v nurture thing.
really? im going to have to look that mare up! lol.
Breeding animals usually have a natural desire to "show off" and if that can be controlled they look better in dressage ( where showing off is highly desirable).
Stallions simply are more even in their temperament, meaning they don't flucuate from good to bad. The are simply more predicable. They also tend to have more power and are conformationally different from mares that usually allow for that power to be utilized.
That makes sense, it DOES get annoying when you have an amazing ride one day, then a horrible one the next! Me and Rena are just starting to hit our stride after a year! lol
I knew they had it easier with stallion! haha! theyre CHEATING! jkjk lol its easier until they get their manly instincs, lol.
Good mares give 110% so I'd rather ride a mare any day over a stallion or a gelding.
Blue Hors Matinee was the famous gray mare ridden by Edward Gal. And Brettina (another famous mare) was ridden by Debbie McDonald to the Olympics. There are MANY mares which are famous - they're not always advertised as mares!
I have seen that most classical riding is on Spanish riding and of Spanish decent. The "tradition" or more just the "way" in Spain for riding horses is the male horses are ridden and mares are used for breeding. In north america that doesn't happen but that's how they do it in Spain. There are also exceptions when they do use mares but usually if they are "real" classical riders, they will use stallions. Spanish mares are used though, outside of classical riding.
I agree valentina, I love mares soooo much, they try so hard once you and them are in sync and understand eachother better.
SPhorsemanship: ya, i had always heard that and been taught that, I just thoguht it was kind of weird and sexist, lol.
thanks for the answers guys :)
I picked up a factoid recently, saying that studs are physiologically better disposed to perform advanced dressage than mares.
With geldings (I've never ridden a stallion), you only have to win once. They fight for a while, but once you get their respect, they are consistent and easy to work with.
Mares, on the other hand, fight you all their lives. You can win a hundred times and they won't give up. And if you let them win at least once, they will disrespect you for a very, very long time, possibly forever.
Mares do have their advantages; when a mare loves you, she LOVES you. She'll give everything, plus more. You can't get that in a gelding.
In dressage, you need to be consistent. Stallions are consistent, but mares, like most females, are argumentative and love to second guess the rider. They have a mind of their own and show it. :D
I love mares. Mares have made me a better rider and forced me to adapt and not take things personally. They burn bright and go out, while geldings and stallion are kind of a dimmer, steady flame.
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