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Heartland 08-22-2010 01:35 PM

issue when cueing for a lope
 
My 3 year old mare is solid on her walk and trot. The lope...ehh... she's three, so it isn't perfect. The issue I've come across lately is that when I cue for a lead- especially the left lead- when I touch her with my right spur on her flank, she circles around to the left. She'll tip in towards the center of the arena and then pick up her left lead. I've been working on this a bit this past week. There is a show September 4th I'm planning to take her to, so I'd like to get this better by then. When I cue, if she tips in or strides towards the center, I check her back to the rail with my left rein and try cueing her again. Is this the best way to correct this? I mean, when she circles around, it's like she circles to gear herself up to taking the left lead. It isn't going to look good at a show, because she'll be cutting across the center of the arena if I let her. We'll look fabulous then.... :oops: I think she just mistakingly thinks that not only does she need to move off of the pressure, but that pressure means to circle?? :?

PaintedFury 08-22-2010 04:59 PM

It sounds like you're queuing her too far back, which tells her to turn. Try lifting slightly on your inside rein and queuing her just behind the girth. This should let her know that you're not wanting her to turn but to pick up her left lead.

Heartland 08-23-2010 12:03 AM

I'm think it has something to do with the arena setting. I rode in a group on a trail ride today. I cued her to lope on a sandy minimum matinence road exactly as I do in the arena. She got right into her left lead not once, not twice, but three times. I cued her identically to the way I do in the arena. This just puzzles me to no end!!

sorelhorse 08-23-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PaintedFury (Post 726883)
It sounds like you're queuing her too far back, which tells her to turn. Try lifting slightly on your inside rein and queuing her just behind the girth. This should let her know that you're not wanting her to turn but to pick up her left lead.

this makes no sense...if you que her farther back, its less as a "turn" signal. when i que my horse to turn with my legs, i que him by the cinch. when i ask to lope off, i spur a bit further.

Heartland 08-26-2010 07:55 PM

I'm certain it isn't asking too far back. I trained this mare and that is how I've always asked for a lope. When I cue, I roll the spur near her flank, which pushes her hip out/ gets her to move off of that hip, so she can pick up the correct lead. I scheduled a lesson with my riding coach today and after showing her the issue, she figured it out. My mare tips her nose into the center of the arena, and instead of shifting off of her hip, she drops her shoulder in, which makes her circle around. We worked on it for a half hour steadily, and we got the issue 90% fixed. I would cue her for a lope and hold the inside rein up so she couldn't drop her shoulder in. I'd also keep her driven up into the bridle, which helped out alot with getting her in the correct frame to ask for a lope. 100x better after the lesson. I'm looking forward to polishing it up these next few days, and bringing home a ribbon on the 4th. :D

Heartland 08-26-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sorelhorse (Post 727674)
this makes no sense...if you que her farther back, its less as a "turn" signal. when i que my horse to turn with my legs, i que him by the cinch. when i ask to lope off, i spur a bit further.

Ditto. Asking further back initiates the horse to move off with their hip, which aids in getting the correct lead.

franknbeans 08-26-2010 08:17 PM

Maybe the show will be on a road...neat new concept! lol JK!

Heartland 08-26-2010 08:21 PM

Lol!!!

smrobs 08-26-2010 08:36 PM

Sounds like you pretty well got her fixed up. I have this same issue sometimes on green horses. I teach them the correct leads by doing circles and sometimes, they will associate the cue with being asked for a circle. If they do that, I will pick up the inside rein just as you do, or (if they aren't solid with neck reining yet) I'll tip their nose to the outside just a smidge and that usually fixes it right up.

Heartland 08-26-2010 08:58 PM

Good! So I'm fixing it right then. :D Lol. I'm glad she catches on quickly. She just started doing that weird circle and mainly to the left in the last few weeks. I'm glad to hear it isn't just her that did that. :wink:


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