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barrelracer7335 08-29-2010 09:47 PM

Scary crash....
 
On Friday I was at a barrel run with a few horses that I don't usually haul together. All of my problems started when I was saddling Hemi, he started pulling and rearing up and just doing things he never does. He did ok warming up but when I went up for the first round he refused to walk into the gate, so I got my over under and hit him so he would walk in. He did ok but when our number got called on the last run Hemi wouldn't walk in even if I hit him so I had my boyfriend walk him in. We got to the gate and Hemi just freaked he came up and back over on top of me, apparently I was knocked out cold for about 5 minutes!

What would you do with a horse like Hemi?
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nrhareiner 08-29-2010 09:55 PM

He probably hurt his pole pulling and rearing. If I get one that has pulled for any reason I put the boiscan light cap on and it fixes them up and makes them feel much better. If it is really bad I get the person I use for Chiro/bioscan to work on them.

Charis 08-29-2010 10:02 PM

Refusing to gate, to me, is a huge issue, and it tells me that there is an underlying issue that needs to be addressed. Hock problems, back problems, saddle fit problems, and a hole in training can all manifest themselves as such. The rearing at the trailer (when tacking up, I would guess?) tells me that you might want to look into back soreness and/or saddle fit.
When you're in that situation at the gate where he's refusing to go in, you might want to look at exactly what's going on and break it down. Leave the over-under out of it, and think about what the underlying problem is. What kind of bit do you run in? Do you use a tiedown? Is the tiedown adjusted correctly? Tiedowns can restrict head movement, so if a horse goes up, they don't have the neck to rely on, which can lead to the horse flipping. So many factors could have played into what happened, I strongly suggest you take a really good hard look at everything before you go run again.

barrelracer7335 08-29-2010 10:06 PM

I run him in a twisted wire gag bit, no tie down,his saddle was custom made for him and I just had his back done about a week ago.
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corinowalk 08-29-2010 10:10 PM

Is there a reason to run him in a harsh bit? Could it be pinching him?

Did he ever have gate issues before? Is this the first time?

Charis 08-29-2010 10:22 PM

While the saddle might have been custom made to the horse`s back, it`s more than possible that he`s changed shape since the saddle was originally fitted. I would also get a work-up on his hocks, and some extra attention to his back can`t hurt. Can I ask why you`re running in a twisted wire gag? I have always, and will always run in a simple smooth snaffle, and truly believe that you don't need anything more than that if your training is solid.

barrelracer7335 08-30-2010 09:43 AM

I run alot of my horses in gag bits it's just how I've always done it. I have a whole crap load of bits that I've tried on him and the gag is the only one that seems to work.

I will get his back looked at again but I just got that saddle about a month ago so I don't think he's changed that much in a month.
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barrelracer7335 08-30-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by corinowalk (Post 733725)
Is there a reason to run him in a harsh bit? Could it be pinching him?

Did he ever have gate issues before? Is this the first time?

He has had some problems at the gate but nothing as bad as it was in Friday.
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corinowalk 08-30-2010 10:15 AM

If its not pain, its the fact that he is gate sour. He is just 'upping his game'. Breaking a horse of being gate sour is reallly hard. Really reallly hard. Do you run all year? Do you have some time to give him off?

I am not saying this is what you do...but in my experience most gate sour horses get that way by being used as a vehicle and not a partner.

nrhareiner 08-30-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by barrelracer7335 (Post 734064)

I will get his back looked at again but I just got that saddle about a month ago so I don't think he's changed that much in a month.
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It is probable not his back but his pole. I find horse who pull hurt their pole and when the pole is out everything tends to go out. If you can keep a horses pole and hocks sound and felling good the rest of the horse tends to stay in line and felling good.


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