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Cheyennes mom 09-07-2010 07:27 PM

horse wasn't trained to reign......
 
hello,
I'm going into a western pleasure show, and I need to neck rein. Although my horse was never taught how to rein. She is a really smart horse, and she catches on quickly, and its very easy to pretend that she knows, but do you have any advise for me? Its not a big show, just like a flat class. I will just need to stop, lope, jog, walk, and reverse. I don't really know why I'm posting this, but I just wanted to know if anyone had any tips! Thanks!

Sunny 09-07-2010 07:31 PM

What do you mean by need to "reign"(i'm assuming you mean rein?) Do you mean neck rein? If your horse can't neck rein then you shouldn't be in a WP show until it can. There is no "faking" for neck reining.
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Cheyennes mom 09-07-2010 07:37 PM

edited, sorry I'm not a great speller.

Sunny 09-07-2010 07:40 PM

No problem. :wink: Again, neck reining takes time to learn. If the show is soon i'd drop out and wait until your horse is comfortable, as well as yourself. Like I said before, neck reining isn't something you can pretend.
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nrhareiner 09-07-2010 07:44 PM

It is quite simple to teach a horse to neck rein. First start out in a straight line then do a 90 degree turn as you do lay your rein on the opposite side of the neck from the direction you wish to go. Give it a second and if the horse does not turn bumb the horse with the inside rein (direct rein) then go straight and do it again. After a few times the horse will start to pick it up then make the secondary cue faster to get a faster response to the neck rein. Also as you are doing this you can also start using your leg to get them to turn.

All my horses learn leg and neck reining right off the bat as they learn to follow their nose.

Cheyennes mom 09-07-2010 07:47 PM

Sunny- the show is on the 11th. See Cheyenne isn't a terrible neck reiner, I mean, she will turn, pretty well, she's 23 and she's been in lots of the same shows and has won 1st place in lots of them. I just wanted to see if there were any comments, on like... where my hands should be, and stuff. I've been using lots of leg and stuff and I've been working with her almost everyday. She'll probably just follow all the other horses around unless I give her another signal lol.

Cheyennes mom 09-07-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nrhareiner (Post 742394)
It is quite simple to teach a horse to neck rein. First start out in a straight line then do a 90 degree turn as you do lay your rein on the opposite side of the neck from the direction you wish to go. Give it a second and if the horse does not turn bumb the horse with the inside rein (direct rein) then go straight and do it again. After a few times the horse will start to pick it up then make the secondary cue faster to get a faster response to the neck rein. Also as you are doing this you can also start using your leg to get them to turn.

All my horses learn leg and neck reining right off the bat as they learn to follow their nose.

cool thanks!

Sunny 09-07-2010 07:55 PM

I would certainly listen to NRHAReiner's advice before my own considering she is tons more experienced with Western than I....but in my experience, it depends on how well the horse moves off leg. I've been trying to sharpen up a mare's neck reining skills for a week or so, and the whole time i've been doing nothing but working on getting her moving off my leg. How fast your horse learns partly depends on how experienced you are in neck reining. It would take me alot longer than say, reiners, because most of my experience is in direct reining. Either way....don't feel the need to enter the show if you aren't confident in her skills, or your own. Good luck.
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Cheyennes mom 09-07-2010 08:03 PM

Sunny- thanks, I am pretty confident, if I can get someone to take a video of us reining then I'll post it on here for you.

nrhareiner 09-07-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny (Post 742411)
I would certainly listen to NRHAReiner's advice before my own considering she is tons more experienced with Western than I....but in my experience, it depends on how well the horse moves off leg. I've been trying to sharpen up a mare's neck reining skills for a week or so, and the whole time i've been doing nothing but working on getting her moving off my leg. How fast your horse learns partly depends on how experienced you are in neck reining. It would take me alot longer than say, reiners, because most of my experience is in direct reining. Either way....don't feel the need to enter the show if you aren't confident in her skills, or your own. Good luck.
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If your horse is good at direct reining just lay the rein on the horses neck a second before you ask for the direct rein. You will be surprised how fast they will pick it up. It is not so much how fast you ask but how fast you reward. If your horse moves off the neck rein then do not use the direct rein. If the horse is slow to move of the neck rein then use the direct rein. Also do not just lay it on the neck. Kind of bumb it on the neck. Not sure that will make seance. If you just lay it there and give no reward even with neck reining the horse will start to lean on the rein.


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