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Clair 09-08-2010 07:57 PM

Parelli. A different view
I am not parelli affiliated, but I would like to tell a true story about a girl and her horse from my barn.

Sarah was 14 and the crazy and gorgeous Arabian stallion that she shouldn't have fallen in love with was 5. She rode western pleasure well and was completely confident in her ability to train this registered nightmare people could barely lead. NH wasn't on her radar, never had been, she thought it never would be. Their horses were trained and normal... She was a good rider and had lots of help available to her.

Time passed and Z earned the name "Kid Killer" from her Dad. (she laughs about that now)
She was excused from every class she tried to compete in.
Random strangers told her parents to buy her a horse she could actually ride.
Obviously Sarah, at 14 was miserable. She was humiliated and always hurt and often would cry "this horse HATES me"

I can't fathom how, but she wouldn't give up, and she didn't want another horse.
Her parents said if he threw her ONE more time, Z was out. So- She turned to Parelli.
If it hadn't been so publicized and so structured, they wouldn't have found it so easily. They hired a Parelli trainer to work with Kate, and Z caught on.
The horse responded very very well to whatever that particular trainer was doing, and Sarah got to keep Z.

Now Sarah is 24, and Z is 15. (he was gelded at some point)
they are a happy very close pair and this would have been enough..

Interestingly, Sarah ended up taking second at the Arabian Nationals a few years ago.

I know NH "[insert brand name here]" is not widely positively regarded here, and I can understand why.
In my experience, horse people know how to do things. Always. They just KNOW. And they're confident in their way and they should be.

It's one of the things I love about the equestrian world.

First- I think problems happen when horse people tell other horse people how to do things, especially unsolicited.

Second- Marketing is obviously annoying, and cheapens the logo

I am not saying you NEED TO GO OUT RIGHT NOW AND PRACTICE THIS TRAINING OR YOU ARE EVIL. That would be narrowminded and ignorant.

I am not trying to fan a fire.. I just want people to have the chance to read a different view here: that NH/Parelli/whatever can be a great thing for some people, and for some horses, if they choose to do it.

The awful marketing has a flip side! Yes, its annoying and a gimmick etc etc but in Sarah's case, its fame/infamy indirectly saved her relationship with her horse.

I just want to show some good it can bring to people's lives. It's really not all bad, especially for an infectious fad, which it also definitely is!

Ooh I'm kinda scared now to press post.. but i feel like I should do this.

I ask only that this remain a thought-provoking and accepting atmosphere with no flamethrowers! I am also game for discussion as long as it remains polite.

Here goes!

.Delete. 09-08-2010 08:06 PM

I see that your new here, but this topic has been exhausted time and time again. Parelli works for some and not for others, to each is own.

Solon 09-08-2010 08:09 PM

This type of training without all the baloney gimmicks has been around forever and created successful horses way worse than the example you gave.

If people ask for information, its not unsolicited. There is a lot of backlash for Parelli because people are starting to discover he isn't what he claimed to be. There are a few videos recently posted on this site that you can watch. Yep, he can sell an igloo in the desert.

Are there success stories? Sure. And just as many failures.

The point is, people should not feel they have to get through all these games and they can't do anything else with their horse unless they complete them. Parelli has a way of making people believe his way will be successful for every horse out there, and it just isn't.

Great for the ones it does, not so good for the horse it doesn't. My trainers biggest clients are re-training Parelli horses.

nrhareiner 09-08-2010 08:13 PM

That is a great story.

To me the key word in the whole thing was "TRAINER" they went out and got a trainer. Yes the trainer might have used Parelli but I would bet that that trainer had experience with other forms of training and NH before PP.

My problem is not with NH. Most trainers use some type of it. My problem with the PP system is that he markets is as a fix all. This one program can/will fix every horse every rider and buy this DVD and equipment and you too can be a horse trainer.

I would bet that if this 14yo had just gone out and got the DVDs the story would have had a much different ending.

Solon 09-08-2010 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by nrhareiner (Post 743659)

I would bet that if this 14yo had just gone out and got the DVDs the story would have had a much different ending.

100% agree.

corinowalk 09-08-2010 08:21 PM

On another note...10 years ago Parelli wasn't such a big name. The fact that they found a Parelli trainer 10 years ago seems a bit strange. 10 years ago I had never even heard of Parelli. NH, yes. Parelli, No. Maybe my area was behind the times.

Glad it all worked out for her and the horse in the end.

Sunny 09-08-2010 08:25 PM

^ I was wondering the same thing. Especially when I heard, "Crazy Arabian stallion."
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nrhareiner 09-08-2010 08:26 PM

10 years ago I would bet that the trainer was just that a trainer who uses a bit of PP and other NH trainers or just NH. I would also bet that back then that a trainer who used PP is a lot different then a PP trainer of today. They seem to be the type that all the info and knowledge they have came from PP DVD and such.

To me a good trainer will use a lot of different tools. I do not know that is would be PP but it would be more like NH. Which I think most trainers use in some way.

It would be like building a piece of fine furniture with a chainsaw. Just will not work. You need all the tools to build it and make it a find looking piece of work.

corinowalk 09-08-2010 08:33 PM

It says that Pat has been training since 1981 (29 years) and that they really formed PNH in 1993 (17 years ago)

Sunny 09-08-2010 08:35 PM

Cori, I was just looking up the same thing. :lol: others have said, I don't think Parelli had anything to do with said horse; I think it has to do with said trainer.
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