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hrsrdr 09-12-2010 11:56 PM

Chronic Back Pain
 
This has almost nothing to do with horses, but I'm posting it here because I know some horse people have this problem too...one of my good friends is having serious lower back pain. He is on constant pain meds (advil/tylenol, just over-the-counter stuff), goes to a good chiropractor almost weekly, sleeps on 3 stacked mattresses (the last of which is an air mattress) but it won't go away. He can't even drive a car very far, because for some reason trying to reach the pedals gives him issues. He has to be a passenger or take his motorcycle. He can't sit for very long periods either. He doesn't overexert his back. The only thing he can relate it to is two serious injuries as a kid, but that doesn't explain why it refuses to go away.

So bottom line is, has anyone ever had a problem like this? What was your solution? Any info/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Speed Racer 09-13-2010 04:49 PM

He needs to see a real doctor and quit mucking about with a chiropractor.

It could be muscle spasms, damaged nerves, or even a herniated disk, but he needs to see an actual M.D. and not some bone cracker.

He needs to start with his family doctor or a G.P. and go from there. It is NOT normal to sleep on 3 mattresses, not be able to drive, and constantly pop OTC pain killers.

I have constant, chronic, lower back pain. I have bad days and good days, but I've always been able to move about more or less freely. Your friend sounds as if something is drastically wrong, as opposed to just general pain.

twogeldings 09-13-2010 11:18 PM

I broke my back (three fracture vertebra, one unstable) in '06 and get back pain, thankfully not daily, but frequently. I had one period where I couldn't get out of bed in the morning because it hurt so bad.

I find that daily stretching and general, light, activity helps more than any prescription medication. Mine is mainly a muscle and tissue damage issue though, when I broke my back my spine was stretched and snapped to the breaking point. My tissue and muscle masses? Not happy. I try to do something that involves bending/moving some sort of exertion every day. Instead of royal hurting, I have a dull, ignorable ache in the evenings (like now).

I do have some serious problems with sitting in cars for too long. I get bad cramping in the kidney areas. Sitting doesn't bother me unless I sit straight for a long period of time. In a chair I can wiggle and noodle down down as to avoid the cramps.

I agree with Speed Racer though, he, unfortunately, needs to see a doctor on this one. He has something funky going on back there that he needs to get checked out. I don't like hospitals all that much personally, they just freak me out, but some things you just can't fix on your own :(

mbender 09-14-2010 07:35 AM

It sucks to hurt everyday. I have been in pain since I was about 18-19 and I am now 39. So I have lived with it for a long time. I have been to doctors, taken MRI's, been to the chiro, neuroligists, you name it, I've been there. Meds, cortizone shots in the neck and hips, no relief. I am addicted to IBU profene even tho it really doesnt do anything for me anymore. Its like a safety net or a crutch. I have thought about, no riding, cuz when I get done,, two days later I am in pain for almost a week. But hell, if I have dealt with pain for 20yrs, I can handle another week of extra pain. I feel for your friend as most of us probably have pain of somesort. The frustration he must feel and the weakness of being a fulfilling human. Unfortunatley, if he has tried everything and no real results, this may be something he has to learn to live with. No amount of drugs will make life better or living better. You just have to take your mind and put it somewhere else. I will say, when I am with my horses or doing something with them, I forget the pain. Its my relief and getaway from life. I forget everything and its great. He needs to find something to take his mind off of the pain for awhile. Find a passion that he can set his mind on. Its hard for me to be home, knowing I have to clean or fold laundry and I hurt. But I can be out at the farm, put up fence, dig holes for posts, load and unload hay and totally forget about the pain. Pay for it later but thats what I do. I hope this helps and I am sorry that he hurts. We all feel for him.

Angel_Leaguer 09-18-2010 08:17 AM

Does he have issues with his legs going dumb and hurting as well? It may sound funny but it is possible to have a blocked (or partially blocked) artery that supplies the area with blood flow and if cut off they wont get thier normal supply for oxygen and nutrients. Discs also have more difficulty repairing damage and eliminating cellular waste products that can irritate nerve endings. I work for a medical device company that makes stents to help such problems- from time to time we actually get to meet patients that have had back problems for years and where about to have full blow back surgery and they end up finding a blocked artery- quick surgery to insert the stent and they are walking and doing doing things again with little to no pain.

The best thing though would to see a medical doctor and get help- the back isnt something to screw around with.

mbender 09-18-2010 08:32 AM

Hey, I agree with you. How do the docs find blocked ateries?
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Angel_Leaguer 09-18-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mbender (Post 752645)
Hey, I agree with you. How do the docs find blocked ateries?
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I belive most doctors do it through performing an angiogram but I am not totally sure- something that should be talked about with a doctor.


What an Angiogram is:
Angiography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ptvintage 09-18-2010 10:16 AM

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You friend needs to go to a doctor, get an MRI and then the doctors will be able to see what's wrong with him.

My husband had back pain the last several years but was just approved to get an MRI in May. The MRI showed 2 herniated disks, and 1 bulging disk. The doctor had him get surgery in June. He spent two months sitting at home recovering, and now he's active and back to work. He's so happy he got the surgery!

Here's the picture of his MRI. You can see the disks, and the places where the disks spill out beyond the spine are the herniations. Not the very bottom one, but the three above it were all the problem places.

By the way, chiropractors are a bunch of crap. Go to a real doctor.

hrsrdr 09-20-2010 10:58 PM

Thanks everybody for your input...the thing is, he doesn't want to go to a doctor...he says that a doctor would just charge him four times as much to tell him exactly what the chiropractor told him, or to tell him that he needs surgery, which he doesn't want at all and can't afford. So he is looking for different options...he would rather just deal with it and wait for it to go away (his brother had the same problem for 3 months and then it left) than pay for a doctor.

Angel Leaguer...now that you mention it, I think he has talked about his right leg going numb and hurting also. I wonder if it is a blocked artery? Where can he go to treat that?

My2Geldings 09-20-2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hrsrdr (Post 747335)
This has almost nothing to do with horses, but I'm posting it here because I know some horse people have this problem too...one of my good friends is having serious lower back pain. He is on constant pain meds (advil/tylenol, just over-the-counter stuff), goes to a good chiropractor almost weekly, sleeps on 3 stacked mattresses (the last of which is an air mattress) but it won't go away. He can't even drive a car very far, because for some reason trying to reach the pedals gives him issues. He has to be a passenger or take his motorcycle. He can't sit for very long periods either. He doesn't overexert his back. The only thing he can relate it to is two serious injuries as a kid, but that doesn't explain why it refuses to go away.

So bottom line is, has anyone ever had a problem like this? What was your solution? Any info/advice would be greatly appreciated.

Has this friend of yours seen a physician? there are thousands of reasons, why one might have back problems. Anything from injuries, defects, posture and the list goes on and on. If this person hasn't seen a physician, then they need to go out and get checked out.


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