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Natural Horesemanship trainers??
Some of you know I bought a 5 year old gelding a few weeks ago and we are having a few issues. My plan is to have some one come out a few times this year and give me a few lessons with ground work and just help me out overall. Then I was planning on sending him for 3 months in the spring.
So in my search for trainers I found a lady that does natural horsemanship. I wanted some one who worked with Morgans but I had no luck in my area and I want him to be close enough that I can participate in the training process and watch his progress. I was in no way, shape or form seeking a Natural Horsemanship trainers but I have heard many wonderful things about her. I rather have a cool and collected horse trainer than some one who is going to try beating Dan into submission and train him based on fear which I have a feeling thatís how he was started. So she is coming to help us next weekend.
She isnt cheapÖso sending him for 3 months is hard enough and the thought of having to send him for any longer than that freaks me out.
I have heard that Natural Horsemanship trainers seem to take WAY longer than most trainers do. Is that true?
Plus, what is your personal opinion on Natural Horsemanship??
I think you get a better response out of your horse. Natural horsemanship is nice because you can train using your body language, something horses understand better than words. If you ever watch horses together, that's how they communicate. I don't think it takes any longer than usual. I think it depends on the horse. I have a great relationship with my horse after this training. I would be involved as much as you can so your horse responds to you.
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Yes it does take longer because it's more about forming a bond not just making the horse tollerable of you & the saddle lol But make sure she teaches you with the horse! The one crappy thing about basing your horse's training on NH is that they may not respond to someone else in the samy way who doesnt know NH
Its nice because her place is literally 12 km down the road from mine. Ill be over there as often as she allows :)
I do not have anything against NH. I use it in many respects. It is more to me a way of though then actually a way of training. I personally would not use a NH trainer however I would want a trainer who uses NH in some form. My trainer is not an NH trainer however he uses those principles when he trains. He has a very good understanding of what a horse response too and how horses move and why. This is NH. Not playing games or forming a bond.
If this trainer is a trainer who will work for you and your horse check her out very carefully. I do not care what trainer is used you must look at how they train what the end result is. Given enough time a monkey can train a horse. When I send a horse off to be trained I expect certain things at certain times. I want a good solid foundation. I do not care if the horse can play games or do tricks. I want a responsive well trained horse based on the time they are at the trainers.
Talk to the trainer watch them ride both new green horses and horses they have had in training for several months. Talk to past clients. NOT JUST THE ONES that are there now.
Now there are many other things I look for when I am looking at trainers however those things would not be available to you most likely.
More then anything you can never do too much homework with trainers.
Just out of curiosity…what are the other things you look for that aren’t available to me?
Show records of the trainers at what level did they show who did they place. What was the breeding of the horses they are showing and have shown. How are the other horses in the barn now bred. Is my horse the best bred horse in the barn and so on. I fine these things very important and give you a lot of info about the trainer that you can not get any other place. However if the trainer does not do any of these things they are not something available to you.
I belive natural horsemanship can help horses and people who have had a bad start, have been subjected to harsh methods, or have issues for other reasons. Could be that any training for a horse/person with ingrained issues will take longer because one has to start from a point further from the goal.
My experience with a Morgan trainer was absolutely horrifying, I hope Dan's was not. Nails under the shoes (to encourage them to pick up their feet smartly), ginger applied to the anus to hold their tails up, whips, riding with a section of garden hose instead of a crop for better response(because the horses had been beaten with one - they leave less bruising). Soring. Peppermints to hide the odor of drugs on their breath. The little kit of injectable drugs I would run across occasionally, the laughing reply of the need to pep up the old ones and calm down the young ones. I could go on.
O yes...I have heard of these methods. Thankfully Dan was not started using them. He grew up in a heard and was not handled often. So some bonding wouldnt be a bad idea for us but he doenst need to know how to bow and do all that...
Good trainer is a good trainer. Whatever he/she "practices". I know several english trainers around, who don't claim themself NH trainers, but wonderful. On other hand Caroline Rider (MD based) is NH trainer and I've seen her in "in work" and should say she's very good. I DO think though that good trainer doesn't spend a whole month on groundwork (unless there are some very bad issues with the horse), but shortly get on and teach in saddle.
I really recommend you to take several lessons with her AND come out (uninvited) and watch how she trains. Usually after couple lessons and visit or 2 you can tell if you like/trust the trainer. Also be sure to check if she's the only one who rides the horse or have assistants (I had absolutely horrifying experience when trainer was OK, but his assistant was just OMG :shock: )
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