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mramsay 09-17-2010 11:55 PM

advice, opinions, ideas needed HELP
Hi all.
I recently purchase a horse--He is a 5 yr old reg. QH gelding. I rode him around the ladys property, and quickly down the trail and fell in love with him. She told me he is broke to ride (just trails--nothing fancy) ties, trailers, awesome ground manners, professionally trained... SOOOOO I bought and paid for him yesterday, and went to pick him up today. I was riding him to where were going to board (only 5 km away) and this is what happened... He bucked, bolted.. Ran me over when I was on the ground, bolted and pulled me over when I was leading him (halter only, no other tack) (I now have rope burn and a sore back). PLUS the lady's mother was at the house when I went to pick him up and told me the reason why the lady was getting rid of him is because he threw her and she is now scared of him. I was originally told that she needed to sell him because she is having problems with her knees and can no longer ride and she didnt want him just sitting in the pasture. Needless to say I didnt get him very far, I rode him back to her house and put him back in their pasture(they were not home). I am now slightly frigtened of this horse, as I am not expert--I can teach basic things like neck reining, and can handle a hot horse, but this is tooooo much for me.. I wanted, and expressed the fact that I wanted a horse to trail ride with. SOOO, what should I do? Do I have grounds to ask for a refund?

tinyliny 09-18-2010 01:56 AM

Wow! that is quite a story. I am glad you are ok, I mean no worse than scared and sore.
So, you only had the one day of riding him on her property and you made your decision based on that? Had you ever met that lady before.?
I would certainly say you have grounds to ask for a refund. (how much did you pay, if you 'll forgive me being rude to ask that)
However, I don't know if there is any legal ground for her to be forced to give you a refund. Papers were signed, no?
She may just take the horse back and refund your money based on it being the decent thing to do. If not, you might try to find out as much as you can about her, about how this horse was trained and anything else to figure out if there's a reason for its' bad behavior.

If you can't get your money back and the horse has some potential, under it's rough exterior, you may be forced to invest some money in getting a professional trainer to work with it. If it's well bred and isn't mean (I mean it couold have bucked and run over you out of fear and ignorance of the respect it should have for human's space ; It just never was taught any better)
Don't have a photo of it, do ya?

maura 09-18-2010 04:33 AM

Yes, you have grounds to ask for a refund. Not being able to successfully ride him from the old barn to the new one is a problem. Essentially, you never "took delivery" of the horse. If you wrote the owner a check, I would consider stopping payment on the check.

FYI, the horse may be herd or barn bound, or may not like to ride out alone. I find it very odd, though, that the owner didn't offer to make the ride with you or find someone else to accompany you.

Good luck with this situation.

At the very least, I hope you know now that one ride isn't enough of a trial before putting money down.

rottenweiler 09-18-2010 12:58 PM

I would definitely ask for a refund. The last horse I bought, I signed papers when I made my first payment and on the papers was listed the horses temperament. So if you did sign papers, I would check them to see if it says anything about the horses temperament.
That being said, when I went to look for a horse to buy to begin with I rode this nice paint gelding. She rode him first in the arena, then I rode him. He was pretty good, a little fast at the canter but nice still. I went out a second time to ride him and he took a little bit of advantage of me in the arena. I had told this woman that I needed a horse I could be safe riding alone as I don't have anyone to ride with most of the time. So then I went out on the trails with another person, to see how he was. He spooked at EVERYTHING. Didn't take off or anything, but darn near jumped out of his skin at stupid little things. I said 'this isn't the horse for me'
Come to find out months later...she did sell this horse and recently learned the people that bought it had it listed for sale on another website. She was upset that they listed it as no buck, bite or rear when she clearly told them that he bucked and reared on occassion. Funny, she didn't tell ME he bucked or reared AND she said she thought we were a good match for each other! Gotta wonder about some of those people selling horses out there!

dally 09-18-2010 04:05 PM

yes, i do agree with everybody, you should be able to get a refund BUT does not mean you will.
first, even if you fell in love, you should have tried him more than once... then, the fact that the mother told you something different than the owner should have made you " click"
maybe you can seek for some help on this? dont know if the lady will give you the refund if she lied to you in the first place...
OR, get a trainer to help you go through some training so you can keep him, and go on trails ! :D

Solon 09-18-2010 05:38 PM

You got a bunch of responses here too:

Alwaysbehind 09-20-2010 08:23 AM

I am confused about a couple of points.

You are not an experienced horseman, you bought this horse and the proceeded to try to ride it to its new home with nothing on but a halter?
(You say no other tack in your post.)

I also miss if it bucked, got you off and bolted, then ran you over and dragged you, how exactly did you get back on it and ride it back to the old barn?

mramsay 09-21-2010 02:11 AM

what I posted is a list of what took place. not in that particular order. He bucked while I was riding him didnt want to "stop". I decided to lead him back to his old home in his halter after it was clear it was going to be too much of a fight(my BF met me and picked up the saddle,etc.) this is when he knoked me down by running me over, then not much later he bolted and pulled me onto the ground--sorry if I was unclear). I have decided that I am going to keep him and send him to a professional trainer.

tinyliny 09-21-2010 12:29 PM

will you post a photo of him sometime? It would be fun to connect an image to your story. What doya wann bet that this will all work out so fantastically that it will become a funny story you drag out when you want to make your friends laugh. You're a trooper!

shovelhead13 09-21-2010 03:13 PM

I got to admit that this sounds like a rip off because the lady didn't tell you the truth. It's just that this horse might not be able to ride up in the mountains. I even had an Appalosa mare that shied away from lights when I rode her after dark.
That's why I wrote Horse Riding Some Tips

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