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barrelracer7335 09-18-2010 10:23 PM

Bat/Whip VS. Over Under
 
Which would you rather see people us in barrels?
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Spastic_Dove 09-19-2010 12:39 AM

I rather see them use leg. I find a bat easier to use though, especially for newbies.

sinsin4635 09-19-2010 12:44 PM

The way i see it, is they are already going balls out!! Same with on the race track. What, do they got a little reserve speed that they put aside that only comes out when their gettin their ass whipped! No, their already going BALLS OUT!! Whats the point? I have never seen a horse pick up speed from being whipped.

barrelracer7335 09-19-2010 01:07 PM

Well actually I have a few horses(mostly OTTBs) that need a little extra encoregment(sp) to get moving after the last barrel so I use an over under and sometimes a whip if I can't find a over under in the trailer.
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aforred 09-20-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sinsin4635 (Post 753587)
What, do they got a little reserve speed that they put aside that only comes out when their gettin their ass whipped!

Short answer, yes, there are some horses that run faster when encouraged with a whip or over/under. My horse needs a little encouragement from 2 to 3 sometimes.

ChevyPrincess 09-21-2010 07:32 PM

what is an over/under?

smrobs 09-21-2010 07:34 PM

Neither. If your horse doesn't have the heart to give every ounce he's got and 15 more he didn't when you ask with your leg, then he will never be a champion barrel horse, no matter what you whip him with.

aforred 09-21-2010 07:40 PM

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The over/under (or over and under, or however you're supposed to type it :oops:) is a length of leather or rope that attaches to the saddle horn. The rider picks it up and uses it on alternating sides of the horse.

Sunny 09-21-2010 07:55 PM

I detest seeing BRs using whips of any kind. It not only looks messy and amateur, it shows a lack of training. I don't care how fast the horse needs to go, you should be able to send them that message with leg, seat, and voice.
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barrelracer7335 09-21-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smrobs (Post 756294)
Neither. If your horse doesn't have the heart to give every ounce he's got and 15 more he didn't when you ask with your leg, then he will never be a champion barrel horse, no matter what you whip him with.

Well actually I have a champion barrel horse that is trained to turn deeper around a barrel with a tap of a whip.
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