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mjnltnmh 09-20-2010 01:13 PM

Breaking a 7 year old?!?
 
Ok so i just got a seven year old geling he is a QH about 14 HH. Real cute (if you look under horse contests hes the horse im looking for a name for lol) he has been trail ridden but that is it... he doesnt really know how to do anything and you can tell hes been abused... now ive broken babies before but not a 7 year old...

im not sure how to go about starting him.. i mean i know hes been ridden i just dont want to hop on him though.. i wanna build up the trust before i start really doing hard work with him.. i tried lunging him today and he is a strong little brat lol but he seems like he knows basics.. he knows what walk, trot and canter means.... he knows that a whip hurts if your snapped on the rump with it lol and he knows what whoa means... but he doesnt seem to know much more than that..

how do i break him without scaring the crap out of him...? ive put a saddle on him (i did that when i went to look at him) and he will let me do everything with it except tighten it up... so yea lol any advice would be greatly appriciated =)

corinowalk 09-20-2010 01:21 PM

First off, throw the abuse out the window. Horses don't understand pity and a strong horse will take it as a weakness on your part. Treat him like you would treat any other horse. Just take it a step slower.

Why wont he allow you to cinch him up? Does he bite...kick...rear? Try doing it in small doses. First allow the cinch to touch his belly. If he tolerates that, give him praise and move on. If you are riding western, allow your latigo to go through the cinch and let it rest on his belly. If he has been trail ridden before, this shouldnt really be a huge issue.

What would you like to do with him? If he walks, trots and canters in both directions and knows his cues on the ground...he probably knows them under saddle. Teaching him to move away from pressure is a good place to start.

Speed Racer 09-20-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mjnltnmh (Post 754615)
and you can tell hes been abused...

Really? How can you tell that he's been abused? Unless you have proof positive that he was, that's a nasty, evil thing to accuse of a previous owner.

Seriously, the horse is probably just spoiled, out of shape, and needs a danged tune up and reminded of how to mind his manners.

If I had a nickel for every 'abused horse' people claim they have, I'd be a rich woman by now!

Plus, get rid of the fuschia font color. Those colors are for tweens, not for someone older than say, 11.

ErikaLynn 09-20-2010 01:26 PM

I say, just get on and ride him. "Tip toeing" around him will not really help him. Just be sensitive, and don't confuse or frustrate him

DubyaS6 09-20-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed Racer (Post 754628)
Really? How can you tell that he's been abused? Unless you have proof positive that he was, that's a nasty, evil thing to accuse of a previous owner.

Seriously, the horse is probably just spoiled, out of shape, and needs a danged tune up and reminded of how to mind his manners.

If I had a nickel for every 'abused horse' people claim they have, I'd be a rich woman by now!

Plus, get rid of the fuschia font color. Those colors are for tweens, not for someone older than say, 11.

Wow...lot of unnecessary animosity in this post...

Speed Racer 09-20-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DubyaS6 (Post 754635)
Wow...lot of unnecessary animosity in this post...

Nope. I just get sick of the people who say their horse must have been abused, because it's acting like an illmannered puke.

I'd lay odds that 99.9% of all the horses who their owners are convinced must have been abused, are just spoiled and out of shape from lack of exercise.

Accusing a previous owner of abuse is libelous, especially when someone has absolutely no proof that abuse ever occurred.

It's ridiculous and entirely unnecessary to trash someone else's reputation, however anonymously.

NdAppy 09-20-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DubyaS6 (Post 754635)
Wow...lot of unnecessary animosity in this post...

I don't think so. I see a lot of people ready to scream "My horse was abused!" when their horse has training issues or other things going on that they really don't want to address.

I do have an abused mare. I saw her previous owner beating the snot out of her and she still happens to carry the physical scars to this day. I do not treat her any different then the rest of my horses. Tip toeing around her known issues would have just made them worse. I also have a mare that a friend told me had to of been abused... Was she? Nope, she had a bad experience with a saddle and we are working through those issues. Was the bad experience abuse? Nope the saddle slipped and ended up underneath her.


OP - Like a previous person asked, what exactly is he doing when you go to cinch him up? What about him makes you think he was abused?

DubyaS6 09-20-2010 01:49 PM

I get your point, but just think the way you said it was unnecessary.

Especially with the font comment...who cares?

That's all I will say about it...enough thread hijacking.

smrobs 09-20-2010 01:51 PM

Just treat him the way you would treat any other horse. Occasionally a horse that is older can be a bit more challenging, but it can still be done. Be firm with him and he will come to respect you. Respect is more important that anything.

mjnltnmh 09-20-2010 01:52 PM

ok thank you for the advice.... and for speed racer wow... i ask for help and you pretty much called me an idiotic child... 1. He has SCARS all over his body where he has had something done to him.. it may have been kicks but the dent on his forehead isnt from some other horse and the scar on his cheek from where someone was careless enough to leave a halter that didnt fit him on him long enough to inbed itself into the skin.. id say he was abused at some point in his life... oh and i like the color pink.... so yea honestly this is a place to get advice for training your horse not a place for you to come to make yourself feel better by bashing people who asked a question in a nice and polite manner... i dont want your advice and i would appriciate it if you would please not comment on my thread again...

For anyone else who didnt act like i was accusing them of abusing horses.. please more advice would be greatly appriciated =)

SPeed racer i never said anything about the person i got him from abusing him.. i said that he was PREVIOUSLY abused.. i never accused the person i got him from of it... i never named names... you are being rude and it is uncalled for.... seriously.. he isnt out of shape and he knows how to work, he isnt rude or pushy i asked how to break him not for your input on people with abused horses....


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