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trIplEcrOwngIrl 10-09-2010 10:49 PM

Bit for Rosie??
We got Rosie home today and so after she;d had a couple of hours to settle in we tried on our tack to make sure it fit and then I rode her a little bit. I'm not sure what to do about her bit though.... She was formally being ridden in a loose ring, sweet mouth snaffle
But all we have are western curbs
And western training bits

I went ahead and took off the curb chain cause there was alot of head bobbing going on. She still wasn't very fond of the bit though she did get more used to it at the end of the ride. So, my question is, what bit should we ride her in? Should we keep using the bit that we have or get the other one tht she has been using? She went okay in the sweetmouth but I was thinking about getting her a full cheek, french link snaffle

The reason for this being that she doesn't give to pressure well at all(she leans into the pressure and fights it) so I thought this bit might help her. Any other suggestions? Or should I just use the one I have/the one she was in.

Also-martingales? The guy used one(running martingale) on her but it seemed to me like she was harder to steer with it on. He said that it will keep her head down and help keep her from reaing up(which she has never offered to do with me in the past 6 weeks I have been on her). He said that he feels safer always ridng any horse with one but I prefer not to use gadgets as a crutch. What do you guys think? Should I keep one on her? Thanks for any help!

trIplEcrOwngIrl 10-10-2010 12:43 PM


Bandera 10-10-2010 06:06 PM

I would keep her in the loose ring! My horse is pretty much insane i.e. bucking, takeing off, rearing etc... So i had a full cheek on her with a slow twist, bad idea... made her crazier... went to a regular full cheek and was better. Then my new trainer decided that we would put in a loose ring french link bit and sure she was crazy but she was more responsive and started going better. She was in a loose ring when i bought her sif i would have stayed with it stuff could have gone better. Dont change something unless its not working, if u decided u want her in a curb dont change it right away but once she starts getting use to you.

Bandera 10-10-2010 06:12 PM

Oh martingale wise, its totally not a crutch! I always think horse should have a martingale jumping and eventing no matter how the horse acts as it can prevent bad things from happening. All a martingale does is sets boundaries and also if you horse does rear it can keep then from flipping over and it can keep them from getting way too out of control. Depending on what kind of martingale u are using it does not limit steering.

Charis 10-10-2010 06:18 PM

Martingales won't prevent a horse from rearing, though a too short one will affect a horse's balance so if they do rear, they could fall. Martingales only ever protect a rider's nose from getting crunched by a head tosser.
On to the bit issue- if she goes well in a loose ring, use that. Does she neck rein? If not, it's no wonder she might not understand a curb bit. If I could toss one type of bit in the dustbin it would be those cheap grazing bits- they offer no finesse to aids at all.
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Bandera 10-10-2010 07:09 PM

Well martingales keep the horse from flipping over backwards because they have to lift there head up far enough to flip but the martingale stops it. Although i am talking about a running martingale, i do think standing martingales do pose a problem with that, i will never use a standing martingale........

corinowalk 10-10-2010 08:10 PM

A snaffle and a curb work very differently. If you want her to carry a curb, you will have to teach her how and transition her between the two bits. I would personally stick with an O ring. If she does not respond well to it, that means she needs more training, not more bit. Before she transitions to a curb she should be able to work easily and independently in the snaffle.

I ride western so the idea of a martingale is a bit strange to me. I can only related them to a tie down...and a horse can and will rear with a tie down...the only thing the tie down does (when used as 'rearing control) is make the horse tuck his head while rearing. The tie down is supposed to offer the horse extra support in turns at high speeds. Any device that causes a horse to keep its head down is silly to me...that horse needs more training, not more gadgets.

Bandera 10-10-2010 11:01 PM

Yeah but i think martingales can really help for jumping and eventing, i mean when you see a grand prix rider come out with out a martingale it looks stupid, especially in eventing, you need that extra sometimes. I dont like the use of standing martingales but i highly encourage running martingales, especially with jumping and 3-day. Running martingales dont keep the head down but it keep that head from coming up to a certain point, that point being very extreme i.e. through head in the air.

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