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charlicata 10-18-2010 10:36 AM

Calming Supplements?
Have any of you ever tried any type of calming supplements on your horses? Rookie is the perfect horse unless he's in a group. I took him on a benefit ride this past weekend. On Saturday, it was just him and Rosie, and he was fine. Barely broke a sweat on a 25 mile ride, and most of it was by himself (Tom took Rosie back early). Yesterday though, he was in a dead sweat before we had even gotten out on the trail a full mile. He gets so excited when there're other horses right around him, almost to the point of him being uncontrollable.

Someone down there told me that I may want to talk to my vet to get some Ace. But after reading up on it, I don't even want to think about going that route. I had tried the Calm and Cool paste on him once before a moonlight ride. Gave it to him about 2 hours before the ride, and being in the 30+ group of horses, it seemed to have the total opposite effect.

I know that riding him more will help. I was just informed though that riding him in the ring by himself just won't cut it. I need to take him out on some trails by myself, with no other horses around.

I'm very open to suggestions.

Speed Racer 10-18-2010 10:41 AM

Charli, I have ear puffies for Casper and will occasionally give him Quietex paste.

The ear puffies really seemed to have helped, for some strange reason. Someone suggested them to me and I told them, "I think he needs a blindfold, not ear plugs!", but they do seem to have done the trick. :?

Ear poofs are inexpensive, and I put a fly bonnet on him to keep them in. He doesn't mind them, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Calm & Cool never made a difference with Casper, either.

MyLittleHunter 10-18-2010 10:48 AM

Lucky for me my two horses are like little tanks, nothing phases them. But a trainer I rode with had three horses that were abosultely nuts.

So I've never tried it first hand but this is what she did and said helped her horses.

put her horses on a Vita B1 crumble supplement.

Farnam Co Horse Health 75210 Vita B-1 Crumble 2.5#

At Ease paste(given right before show)

At-Ease Equine Calming Supplement - ShanesTack

And Whoa! Calming Agent:

Calming Supplements for Horses: Whoa! Calming Agent by Equi-Shine

^Those worked work her horses, but I know of other people who's horses have had no improvemeant with these.

When I was working Dallas who was abused by a harsh traininer as a four year old, no supplements worked. Just a lot of bonding and quite time together until he learned to trut me enough, to know I wasn't going to let anything bad happen to him. I would spend hours groom him, sitting in his pasture reading a book. Talking at him, bring him something nice. And it worked because now Dallas rides and shows like a dream, and has won at shows all around, and I hope to take him to nationals. It was just a lot patience and effort. Even if your horse wasn't abused, a lot of time together and bonding can never hurt. The more trust he has in you the better.

Going out and riding more, as you know, will help too. If groups are his biggest issue, then I would take it slow and work up to them. First by yourself, then maybe add a friend on a quite horse, and so on as he improves.

Never tried or heard of ear poofs. XD But they might be worth a shot.

charlicata 10-18-2010 10:52 AM

I may give the Quietex a try before the ear puffies. I have ridden him in one of the fly masks that goes on over the bridle (Cashel), and he seems to be a little worse with it on. I was thinking that it (maybe) dulled the colors that he's used to seeing slightly?

I had been thinking that it was because I get nervous in crowds, but this past weekend, I was completely calm and relaxed. So now I'm thinking that it's partially him.

Speed Racer 10-18-2010 10:54 AM

Charli, I use a crocheted fly bonnet when I ride, not a fly mask.

Here's an image:

charlicata 10-18-2010 10:57 AM

I'll give the fly bonnet a try. I know I can pick them up very reasonably at one of the tack stores.

And thank you MLH. I had read somewhere else that it can be caused by a B1 deficiency.

MyLittleHunter 10-18-2010 11:02 AM

No problem, I just like to try and be helpful. :-)

Peggysue 10-18-2010 11:42 AM

Mg def will cause a horse to be nervous ... might look into MagOx 2tablespoons theh first 30 days then 1tablespoon after that

if he is nervous in crowds you need to ride him in crowds.

also look at his total diet and see if there are any ingedients that are causing the problem... grains can cause a horse to get pretty worked up as well as alfalfa with some horses and soybeans with others

charlicata 10-18-2010 12:41 PM

I'm feeding him the Purina Strategy, along with 2 - 6 oz cups of Omega weight supplement, and 3 oz of DuMor Hoof. He only gets the weight and hoof supplement once a day. The vet and farrier both told me to use the Strategy to help him gain weight, and both told me that it wouldn't make him "hot". No alfalfa on a regular basis. I'll give him half of a cube after his evening feeding as a treat if he eats all of his food. Other than that, all the grass hay he can eat.

Peggysue 10-18-2010 01:24 PM

DO you have the ingredient list off of your bag of feed?? that is a grain based feed and while it "shouldn't" make most horses hot it doesn't take much to make some hot... I would look into Triple Crown Low Starch if you need a higher fat good nutrition feed.. I personally dont' like any Purina feed because they don't have a fixed formula so you never know what you are getting.

if you get a good feed you can eliminate both the hoof and the fat supplement most likely.

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