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Mare running/rushing.. issues..

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#1 ·
Hi guys!

I bought my mare a few months ago, she is nice and sensitive but very level-headed and calm at the same time (5 year old paint). Before I bought her she was only being ridden maybe once a week or less, so she was quite green and her muscles were not properly developed.

Since then I have been riding her about 3x a week, with a LOT of improvement and she was still happily working.

I recently moved her to a better facility where she is much happier and gets to walk/run around all day at will, I find she has much more energy but normally it is easy to put it to productive use.

Today, however, I took her out and she had a nice forward walk but as soon as I asked for the trot it was the fastest trot she could possibly muster and she kept breaking into the canter. She was calling for the other horses once in a while which is NOT like her at all, she is very good about being alone. I let her get some of her steam out and do her thing until she was ready to come back to me and then I tried to regulate her pace with my seat and my posting but it only lasted for maybe a circle and then it was frantic running again..

I'm wondering if this could be caused by soreness? The last 2 weeks I have been riding her at least 5x a week (not overly hard but still) and also yesterday we went for a long forward walking trail with lots of hills which she is NOT used to...

I'm just afraid I'm losing my nice calm girl, I am hoping there is something else going on since after my ride I led her out on her own quite a ways away from the barn by noisy traffic, etc. and she was just fine without the other horses..

It's so hard not to let my frustration get the best of me when she is just going going going with no response to anything I am asking of her but I know getting strong with her will only make it worse..

Any help would be great!
 
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#2 ·
I'm no trainer but maybe I can help a little. I hope this was just a fluke but incase it's not here a few things I've learned from the folks at the barn where I board. If she's doing this on a straight line you might try getting her to do some kind of pattern, change directions. This might help get her listening to you more. My mare had a lot of anxiety/ confidence issues when I first got her.

I tend to use a mix of natural horsemanship and old cowboy ways. Most people do around here. I love doing hindquarter disengagements whenever my horse isn't listening to me. Beyond that I hated her calling out when we were working. She would always freak out and pull some very crazy stunts every time she saw a friend in the pasture when she was working.

I started lunging her in sight of her friends and started reprimanding whenever she would call out to them. I never reprimand her when I'm not working with her. I like her talking to me. But I want her attention on the job at hand. Hopefully this was just a fluke with your girl. Hope this helps a little.
 
#3 ·
Could she be in heat? If she is rushing with her attention elsewhere it would not seem to be due to soreness. Were it soreness, I think she would put her ears back and maybe try to rush out from under you but would not necessarily be mentally "gone", but would in fact be perhaps more mentally there, especialy to changes in your posture that might affect the back.
I bet it's hormones!
 
#4 ·
She could be a little sore and is trying to "run away" from the pain. But it could be lots of other things. She could be in heat. Or it could just be that there is a new horse in the paddock, or she's on a new feed, or fresh grass. Ride her again and see if it happens.
 
#5 ·
I was thinking it might be hormones.. about 5 days ago I was doing groundwork with her and she was really irritable which is unlike her and again, a bit more distracted.. this time she wasn't moody but just distracted and focused on the other horses. But it is so cold here being mid-october (in Canada) I was thinking she would be shutting down for the winter but maybe she is just experiencing the last little bit of it.. (hopefully).
 
#6 ·
My guess is that she is beginning to shut down for the winter. I had the same problem with my paint a week ago. She normally will gallop and trot for as long as I ask her to, but last time she was lethargic and would either go from a trot to a walk or a trot to a gallop. She just had no medium speed at all. She is beginning to develop her winter coat and I think she is just in a transition right now
 
#7 ·
update...

Gave her a couple days off and tried to ride her again today. She is in her own little world, rushing the trot and I can't even do regular transitions because she is clenching her jaw and ignoring my seat aids. I tried to let her get it out of her system but that didn't work, nor did alot of figures.. in fact, the figures made her break into the canter which felt the worst it ever had.. more like an off balance hand gallop.

I am so frustrated I just had to get off her and put her away because I was crying and starting to get hard on her mouth which I know is the LAST thing to do so before it got worse I wanted to end it..

I need help badly. She was doing so amazingly well until we went on a trail with another horse, at the end the owner let the horse trot home and my mare obviously wanted to follow so i was fighting her for the last ten minutes to not gallop and explode. (But this wasn't a big deal because I took her out for a 15 minute walk down the road afterwards and she was calm with her head down, etc.) Now, she is worse than anything she has ever been and I can't get her to focus.
 
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My mare used to be like that. She'd stick her head up, do a quick but short strided trot and then break into a canter almost every five steps. She also used to whinny to her herd mates. All of that was due to my lack of use of my leg(except for the calling to the herd, that's just a mare being a mare! Well, mine at least). I know your not really looking for riding critique and all. My instructor told me that if she does what your describing your mare doing, give her a kick and try to bring her attention back. Softly squeez the inside rein, bending her neck. Make her work for you! Do circles, leg yeilding her out and in. Remember to keep your leg on! Once I learned to put and keep my leg on, my mare's a completely different horse.
 
#10 ·
Thanks for the advice, the only thing is she has NEVER been like this. She is ms calm and cool, nothing phases her and she isn't herd bound. She is usually a bit lazy to my leg if anything.. And we can ride away from the herd no problem. But all of a sudden she is rushing all the time and her head carriage is different but this just started between day 1 of an awesome ride and day 2: horrible. I don't know if it could be that she is sore because she isn't running with her ears back or looking irritated either. Ugh..
 
#11 ·
So sorry to hear of your continuing troubles. However, her "period" may still be affecting her, no? She is really coming into prime "foal bearing years", so the hormones might be strong now.
The other possibility is pain of some kind. Any change in tack? Have her teeth had their regular care? The long trail ride could have caused soreness if the saddle was not good in any way Does she run like this if another person rides her?
Maybe she has become more entrenched in the herd such that she is now herd bound, unlike when you first brought her into the setting. Maybe while she used to be more dominant, now she is more subordinant? (or the other way aroiund. Of course, this only really applies is she runs IN a herd.

On that bad trail ride, could she have injured her tongue during the fight you guys had to keep her in hand?

Just brainstorming here.

Do you have a place to free lunge her?
 
#12 ·
This may or not be relevant but I have found in my experience of young (or quite green) horses that you do get a sort of honey moon period while riding is new. I have always found that there comes a point once a horse is starting to get fitter and more confident with a rider that you enter in to a sort of trial period. My mare is an exceptionally calm horse and I thought I had done a pretty good job with the basics but over time little 'issues' crop up.

I am a great believer in backing up. I always start each ride from a basic level once a young horse starts to test. I start a ride with lateral strtching, work on this until she stands nicely until I ask her to move. Still in the same place I start asking her to move her hind quarters one step, front end one step, then the other side, moving into a full side pass, we practice this until I can place her feet exactly where I want them. We then do some backing and backing in a circle. Basically all I am doing is getting her to think before she moves. Also this is good for flexibility. I am pushing her around with my legs by the way, keeping my hands as quiet as possible.

Once I have done this and we go off to work I know she understands what I am asking her to do. When I ask for a trot if she begins to rush I bring her right down to a stand still and make her back up until I feel her give. Then I will ask for the trot again, I do the same thing the minute she even thinks of getting pushy, stop and back up. If my horse is pushing at the trot I don't even bother going into a canter until that particular issue is dealt with. Only once we are trotting the way I want to trot, for as long or short a time duration as I choose will I introduce a canter. This is just my little way but it works for me.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for all the thoughts!
I don't think she is more entrenched in the herd (yet) as I just moved her a few weeks ago. The place I moved her to kept her in quarantine for two weeks and one of the "bad" rides was on her last day in quarantine, so she wouldn't have even known the herd then.

I thought she could be sore from the ride but i lunged her before getting on to see how she moved and she was fine and quite calm, which leads me to believe either my weight is making a slight soreness more sore or she basically hates me. (Ok, not really but something about me makes her run). I don't get how it could be that either though simply because I have always been the one to ride her and she has been awesome for me, I haven't changed anything in the process.

I'm thinking I will try riding her bareback just to see if it is the saddle.. I am praying this just clears up on its own. I cannot get anything productive done because everything just means GO to her all of a sudden.
 
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