Okay so for those of you who've read any other barn drama type threads I've posted here's another. You guys may remember the girl who hates me, we'll call her Lady X. Okay so she's causing problems again. She had been paying me to ride her horse cause she supposedly "didn't have time". I had ridden him 2-3 times before our coach flipped out at her in a jump lesson, yelled at her and told her to ride her god **** horse more.Don't think badly of my instructor, this horse is 4 and was started as a 2 year old. He has NO sens of bend what so ever and even at the walk CAN'T bend properly. He rarely picks up the proper canter lead and he is very slow. This horse is a purebred TB. She started showing him this year when she can barely get him over jumps in jump lessons because she won't kick.
So I finally told her I can't ride her horse anymore because I don't agree with her training methods. I'll show you our facebook conversation and I'd love your guys' opinions. I realize now that I came off sounding kind of insulting but I was truly only trying to help.
Alright so I've come to the decision that I can't ride Brass for you anymore. Not because I'm to busy but because I don't agree with the way your training him. Your horse has no sense of bend and roundness, not even at the walk. they should go round naturally, at least at the walk and Brass can't even do that. You need to lunge him in side reins a whole hell of a lot and you need to get out there everyday and work with him.
I can't tell you what to do but you need to know that your not ever gonna get any better with him if you don't go back to the basics. and I'm saying this as a friend trying to help you move up in your riding.
He has neck problems at the moment that's why he's not bending. I lunge him alot. I ride him three to four times a week just not this week. He does go round. So don't you tell me what I'm doing wrong cause I'm doing nothing wrong
That's complete poo poo an you know it. You just had me riding him a couple times cause you were "busy" and the like month or 2 or 3 before that you only came out for jump lessons. I highly doubt ts neck problems because he NEVER bends. I'm not gonna start arguing wit you AGAIN but when you guys just barely scrape by at shows or when you get eliminated or yelled at by Tricia you can NO LONGER came ignorance because I TOLD YOU how you can train him properly and you blew me off!
We don't barely scrape by at shows. Tricia barley yells at us.
And yes Jessica he does have neck problems he has had bend before.
I'm done talking to you about this don't reply back
so your 8th place and being eliminated is not barely scraping by? I always here her yelling at you to bend properly and get the proper canter lead so don't lie about how you guys do so well and how you actually ride your horse. i'm not stupid
We Get the right leads and he is now doing flying changes so suck it. I'm not lying to you. Right now he has stiffness in his neck so I'm saving all my money from work to get a chiropractor out. Ok. So if you don't mind shutting up and leaving me Alone that would be great
wow ------ way to be such a whine about it. and i'll be asking your mom for the $10 you owe me seeing as I doubt you plan on giving it to me now. just trying to help you better your riding. and i know its a lie that you actually come out because nobody ever sees you, especially the people who work there.
Well whatever. I do go out. I'd rather bot hear what you have to say about me. Causeypur not a very great rider either. You hold your hands like your going to pee.
if i'm not a good rider then why did I place at every show i've been too and why was i in the 7:30 jump class and why did Tricia get me a horse worth $10 000 to ride and train? I'm pretty sure all those things show just how good of a rider I am. Just go ask Tricia if i'm a good rider, everyone at the barn knows she'll say yes.
I realize I shouldn't have sworn at her, I know that. I'd like you all to know that horse does not actually have neck problems, she just NEVER works him. I work at the barn we ride at and she is NEVER there. She only comes for the thursday jump lessons. So what do you guys think. was i completely and totally wrong from the very beginning?
Um wow. If you came at me with that attitude I would have gotten even more snarky with you than she did. It's her horse. If you don't want to ride, then just tell her that. Don't jump her butt because you don't agree with her training methods. It's her horse and she can do with it what she wants. I completely feel you were wrong in the way you told her that.
ETA - please clean the language in that post please.
Thanks for the reply. How do yo think I should have told her? She needs to know this stuff. She never rides her horse and she expects to show her horse. She's been showing 2 seasons and she's gotten eliminated at shows both seasons because she doesn't put the training in to her horse. she blames it on not being able to come out but I'm friends with her mom and I know for a fact that she can get out.
You were wrong to act like that. IMO it is none of your business how she trains your horse, or wether you agree with it, unless she is beating it, its none of your business. If you didnt want to ride her horse anymore then say you dont want to, you dont need to go on with everything thats wrong with him, that puts ANYONE in defence mode, if someone insulted my horse like that i would probably reply a lot meaner then she did.
It is not your job to tell people what theyre doing wrong, or how well they ride, thats your trainers job.
In all, to me you sound like a teenage girl with a tampon up her butt. haha not the nicest way to put it, but we all have those kinds of moments.
I dont know all your background information with her, but to me you were beign very rude acting like that, and it seemed like you were looking for drama. If i were you i would go back and say sorry for acting like that.
Honestly? You shouldn't have. You should have said "I'm sorry but I won't be riding your horse anymore for personal reasons."
As I said before, it is NOT your horse and it doesn't matter how YOU think it should be trained. You have no ownership rights or say so and to push YOUR opinions on the owner, ESPECIALLY in that manner, was rude, immature and uncalled for. She is under the tutelage of a trainer. Leave the critiques and opinions to the person that has been HIRED to give that opinion.
So she shouldn't be told how to better help her horse and herself? If you guys say so.
she shouldnt be told like that, or in that situation, or by someone she doesnt want advice from.
When she pays you for advice, then give it and I suggest you don't give it in that manner. You seem to have an overinflated ego and are coming across like an extreme know it all. You need to take a step back and put yourself in HER shoes. Would you like someone to tell YOU what to do with YOUR horse in a cursing, childish way? Doubt it. That makes people automatically go on the defensive.
Wow... That was harsh... If someone I knew in person talked to me like that over the interwebs, the nearest time I saw them, they would be crying with a bloody nose.
She was paying you to ride Her horse. Therefor you were HER imployee. Only the Boss gets to rip someone like that if they were doing something wrong. If you didnt agree with her ways of training, simply tell her you didnt want to work for her anymore. Thats it.
As a matter of fact, this 'barn drama' is your fault.
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If you told me how to train my horse when i didn't ask you how I should train my horse then I would probably tell you off worse than she did.
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