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mbender 10-31-2010 09:04 AM

ground driving
How do you get a horse started to ground drive? How to get them to move out, forward and not turn into you? Does youtube have any videos? I looked and can't find someone just starting.
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mbender 10-31-2010 09:05 AM

Bump this thread.
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munschk 10-31-2010 09:20 AM

Dont suppose by any chance you're lucky enough to have a double lunge arena?

Then, second question, is your horse prone to kicking and do you have someone who can help you?

Since I didnt have anyone who could help me, I used our double lunge arena. Put the two lunge lines on my mare and threaded them through the rings of a lunging surcingle. Then, she knows the command 'walk on' so I said that and then pushed her bum (I know she doesn't kick, people anyway) and stopped once she moved forward. She was very confused in the beginning as she's used to lunging but luckily, with the double lunge, all we had to focus on was walking forwards with me behind her which took a little while. Now we have to work on the turning part...

But if you don't have one, and you have someone to help you, then stand behind your horse, slightly to one side for safety sake, and get someone to stand at your horses head. Then give the command, and get the person to lead the horse forward until your horse is used to you being behind him/her with him/her walking forwards. Then I found it useful to have your assistant stay for a little while at your horse's head without actually leading him/her.

Thats all the advice I have to offer, I've still got a lot of learning to do about ground training myself.

blueberryhill 10-31-2010 09:58 AM

How is she with the saddle? If she is good with the saddle you can take the lunge lines that you are using, usually two of them and go through the stirrups on the saddle and behind her keester. Then you can bump her forward with the hind rope and she will walk forward, work on walking forward first then worry about everything else. First get her used to the lines on her are you using a halter or bit? Otherwise you can use a lunge whip behind her to tap her first. Does she know what lunging in a circle is? If not start there first.

mbender 10-31-2010 10:07 AM

Hey you! No, gotta work on the saddle yet. You know how she is Blue. She follows me everywhere so getting her to go away from me is going to be a trick. I kind of want to start her with a hackamore for bending excersises without hurting her mouth. Just until she understands the pressure. What do u think? I'm just trying to think of someways to get her started with understanding pressure and turning. I do lateral flexion now on the ground just standing near her and she does real well but would like her to move out andlearn turning.
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rumba12 10-31-2010 11:17 AM

How I start all youngsters to double lunge and then ground drive is start with just one line and get them moving away from you through the use of your lunge whip and body position. You also need to work on voice commands so that they walk/trot/canter by voice command. Once you have both of those in place, you introduce a second line.

mbender 10-31-2010 11:24 AM

I kind of thought that was how but wasn't sure. Thanks.
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churumbeque 10-31-2010 01:52 PM

To get them to move out I use voice commands and if they do not move off promptly I tap them with the whip. If they are turning when they are not supposed to then you do not have proper contact on the bit. They are a mirror of you. They need to be supported with the reins

blueberryhill 10-31-2010 04:00 PM

Ok I start to lunge with a whip and make sure you are standing not at the shoulder as that is a pressure point to stop. Stand back by the hip, you can tap them with the whip but as soon as they take a step forward stop immediately with the whip. This is the give/take. You can also crack the whip in front of you to make sure that they are moving away. This is the space issue. Start with that, when I start with pressure and giving I do it with a full cheek d-ring as it won't pull through the mouth. That is when they learn to give. They also learn what the bit feels like. It is a good thing. But I have never used a hack to start the giving process. A sidepull is a good thing but not a hack, just an opinion.

KMtraining 10-31-2010 04:08 PM

Starting ground driving in some of the ways mentioned above is liable to get you kicked or hurt and your horse scared and unwilling to work with you.

Ground driving comes after you have done lots of other ground work with your horse. Your horse should be taught at liberty how to respond to voice commands, how to move away from and yield to pressure, how to not be scared of long lines dragging by his/her feet and all over their body, and other excersises that will make the transition to ground driving less stressful. Hope this helps! :)

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