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Mehtala09 11-04-2010 02:01 PM

My Horse Leans On The bit):
So My Horses Teeth Were Done, So She Is Comfortable, Its been A Week And She Has Still Been Working, So Not like shes Just hot. She Is now Leaning Down And Putting All her weight in to my reins, yesterday we put her back in the pehlam and her head was straight in the air, what should i do?

Snookeys 11-04-2010 03:58 PM

What bit, other than the Pelham, are you using? How tight are your reins when she pulls?

kcscott85 11-04-2010 05:51 PM

Why a pelham? Are you sure you're not the issue? Most horses that lean on the bit do so to get away from unrelenting pressure that the rider is putting on the reins. When I'm working with a horse that has learned to lean on the bit, I ride with totally loose reins- zero contact. The only time I make contact with his mouth is to stop or turn if he doesn't listen to my seat/legs and that pressure is very brief- as soon as he does what I ask then we're back to zero contact. Usually the horse will experiment to find his boundaries and I give him all the rein he needs- even if he scrapes his nose against the ground! Once he learns that I can control my body and not rely on his mouth for balance, I still ride with loose contact and if he tries to pull, I hold on tight so that he is punishing himself by rooting against the bit. He soon realizes that when he doesn't lean on the bit, there is no pressure on his mouth.

Kayty 11-04-2010 06:52 PM

It takes two to tango mate, she can't lean/pull if you don't give her anything to lean into :) Also bare in mind, usually a horse that leans into the contact is a horse that is on the forehand - it is wanting you to hold it's head up as it is not in self carriage.

As soon as she tries to take a hold, put your leg on, hold your core to steady her, and give a couple of rein squeezes on alternating sides in quick succession. You may need to repeat this every 2 or 3 strides to start with but they start to work out that it's easier not to lean.

And no I'm not talking out of my backside, I've experienced plenty of forehandy horses that think it's ok for their rider to hold them up. The mare that I am currently competing is the same, she was evented before her current owner purchased her for dressage, and unfortunately the event rider she had would drive her so far onto the forehand that often she would run through jumps and nearly fall over. So now, it's a job and a half to try and get her confident enough to hold herself up and convince her that she's not going to fall over in the process.
I use multiple transitions between and within paces, spiralling in/out of a circle, serpentines, loops, rein back, leg yield on a circle (1/4's OR forehand in depending on how she's feeling) and shoulder in. Each ride I am correcting her initially once every 2-3 strides, and when she has warmed up and started to shift to her hindquarters, she starts to lighten her forehand and become less dependant on me holding her up, so that the corrections only need to happen once every 10 or so strides.

Mehtala09 11-04-2010 09:59 PM

Well We Have Tryed A Simple D ring snaffle, a slow twist a corkscrew and a happy mouth jointed loose ring, even on loose contact she tries her hardest to pull, she off the track but its been a long time, she i have dropped my reins, and she will stick her head to the ground its recent that she started it, and the pehlam because that has always been the bit she has gone best yet,

Mehtala09 11-04-2010 10:00 PM

also if she is deag legged to light presesure but if you squeez to the point she responds she bolts andcocks her head to the outside,

spirithorse8 11-04-2010 10:48 PM

Ok, having dealt with many OTTB's I can tell you that pulling is not a solution.
There is technique where the rider does an alternate vibration of the reins, gentle hold then release....if no response firmer vibration and hold....if no response come to a complete halt. Do not do the vibration in is an alternating vibration

Mehtala09 11-04-2010 10:49 PM

Thank You

spirithorse8 11-04-2010 10:58 PM

Most does work, be patient

Kayty 11-05-2010 04:50 AM

What I said... :P

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