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Phantomcolt18 11-06-2010 11:06 PM

Does it look like he's gained some?
 
I think Phantom has gained some weight in the past 3 weeks of being at the new place....We weaned him off of what my old BO said they were giving him and now have him on a combo of Mane Menu Sweet Feed and High Fat Horseman's Edge. All together he's getting 2 scoops in the morning 2 scoops at night with 4 flakes of hay in the morning and 2 at night cause he's on grass all day too(something he never had before) So I think I see some weight gainage but I would like some opinions.

here's what he looked like the day after we moved him...sorry about the "stitches" we had a costume class that day which we got second place in hehe

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4323686_n.jpg

and here is a pic from yesterday? (sorry he's so dirty I SWEAR I groomed him after this pic was taken. haha)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5985815_n.jpg

and no his tail is not normally pink haha thank you red hair spray that WOULD NOT come out haha so I just let it fade out but hey it turned pink and october was breast cancer awarness month he was just showing his support =D

BWolters 11-06-2010 11:15 PM

Ya looks like it! Those scars healed up very nice too haha

kmdstar 11-06-2010 11:41 PM

It is hard to say from the different ankles, also looks like he's got quite a bit of a winter coat since the before picture which can hide the rib showing. His hips are still clearly sticking out. Do you have any other pictures of him from yesterday? What is his diet/how long has he been getting fed it?

Love the costume by the way! :p

Phantomcolt18 11-07-2010 12:17 AM

His coat hasn't changes too much but he did look raggety because it had just rained the day before and he rolled in the mud making his coat look all weird and clumpy....We now have have him on a combo of Mane Menu Sweet Feed(one scoop) and High Fat Horseman's Edge(one scoop). All together he's getting 2 scoops in the morning 2 scoops at night with 4 flakes of hay in the morning and 2 at night cause he's on 6acres of grass all day too(something he never had before, before he was on dirt not one weed in the field)
here's a few other pics to give you more of an idea....i know he's always gonna have a swayback cause he's older (about 23 or so) but I feel like we are slowly but surely making progress...he also seems to have a lot more energy now, when I get on him i barely tap him and he shoots off when before he would just drag his feet even if I was kicking and kicking and kicking lol.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1696745_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4690711_n.jpg

Also thanks for the costume comments hehe it was fun he was my stitched up horse and I was the crazy veterinarian who chopped him up and sewed him abck together after an experiment lol.
here's a pic
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1911694_n.jpg
don't worry i only got on him for the pic. ;P

MyBoyPuck 11-07-2010 12:23 AM

No comment on the weight, but that stitches costume is the best. I almost dropped my wallet when I saw that!

kmdstar 11-07-2010 12:24 AM

He does look better but his hips still stick out. He needs muscle and I'm sure his back will look better even though it's swaybacked it can probably still improve. If you can get him collecting himself, lots of trotting and hill work that will help muscle him up alot only after he is at the right weight of course, and if he isn't in currently in work make sure to condition him slowly. Also if there is any way to supply him with hay 24/7 that would be the best thing for him (assuming it is getting cold/starting to snow where you live - can't say for sure since he might have grass that isn't getting frozen/snowed on to munch on all the time)

Phantomcolt18 11-07-2010 12:38 AM

MyBoyPuck- hahaha thanks I thought it was pretty clever hehe


kmdstar- We still have grass for Phantom now and there is a whole other 5 acre field that has been left to grow up for the winter....there is still TONS of grass so we're not as worried about hay now but when the grass starts to disappear even slightly he's gonna be getting chain round bails(as soon as one is over another thrown into the field right after it) so he'll be on hay 24/7 when the grass starts to looks brittle but right now there is still 5 acres of lush grass I believe we are putting them on that next week. He gets worked 3 times a week....very light stuff so he doesnt burn off what he eats we mostly walk around our quarter mile track once then go around again and trot the straight walk the curve then go around again and lope the straight trot the curve then got back to trot straight walk curve and then walk around again and if he's not tired we do it again. No hills near us though :/ do you think if i made him stand on a slant like if i made him step up on a platform(not high about 10in. and alternate back end on the ground front end on the ground a few times would help?

kmdstar 11-07-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantomcolt18 (Post 807712)
kmdstar- We still have grass for Phantom now and there is a whole other 5 acre field that has been left to grow up for the winter....there is still TONS of grass so we're not as worried about hay now but when the grass starts to disappear even slightly he's gonna be getting chain round bails(as soon as one is over another thrown into the field right after it) so he'll be on hay 24/7 when the grass starts to looks brittle but right now there is still 5 acres of lush grass I believe we are putting them on that next week. He gets worked 3 times a week....very light stuff so he doesnt burn off what he eats we mostly walk around our quarter mile track once then go around again and trot the straight walk the curve then go around again and lope the straight trot the curve then got back to trot straight walk curve and then walk around again and if he's not tired we do it again. No hills near us though :/ do you think if i made him stand on a slant like if i made him step up on a platform(not high about 10in. and alternate back end on the ground front end on the ground a few times would help?

I don't think that will be very useful for him, you'd have to do it alot to make it count and I don't see why anyone would want to do it that much LOL. But it's not a huge deal, you can build muscle without hill work. LOTS of trotting (when he is conditioned for it!) would be great for building muscle.

mpleasance 11-07-2010 01:07 AM

god that scared me at first! Great costume. In my opinion it looks like he gained a little bit but not much, hard to tell in some pictures.

smrobs 11-07-2010 01:40 AM

I agree it is really hard to tell in the pix but I don't see much improvement in his topline (too hard to judge on the ribs). I, personally, would rather feed him a complete feed that was high in protein and fat rather than the sweet feed. Sweet feeds generally really don't help much with weight gain. I am a huge advocate for alfalfa being used to put weight on a horse in a healthy way. Just an idea for something else to try if you don't get good enough results with what you are doing now.


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