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armydogs 11-26-2010 01:00 AM

critique possible buy: thoroughbred mare
I am very interested in this mare. She is a 6 coming 7 year old Thoroughbred mare. She has raced some, 17 starts. One win and two places. Retired sound. If some of you conformation genuises wouldn't mind, I would love it if you critiqued this mare for me. Please tell me all her strengths and weaknesses. What do you think she could do or not do?Here is a link to her pedigree: Yieldtothequeen Horse Pedigree

AlexS 11-26-2010 01:23 AM

What has she been doing since she retired? I would assume from her muscles that these pics were taken either at the track or soon after that?

Looks like a nice horse to me, I have had a bunch of OTTBs so I would recommend a vet check on her, particularly her legs.

What do you want to do with her?

armydogs 11-26-2010 01:31 AM

I am not positive what I would want to do with her yet. I know nothing about dressage or any kind of enlish riding, so I have been researching it. I trail ride mostly. But, I think she has the potential to do much more than that.

As for when the pictures were taken, I am not sure, I think they were shortly after coming off the track. I will be getting a ppe done, thanks for recommending having her legs checked out.

AlexS 11-26-2010 01:45 AM

I love OTTBs, every horse I have owned other than my first has been one. They can make great trail horses, however they can have a lot of problems too. There is a lot of retraining that goes into them and that takes a while. So it completely depends on what she has done since being off the track rather than how she looks, in my mind at least.

I am a big supporter of TBs, but I think if you are looking for a trail horse and frankly why spend the time retraining TB, so a Quarter Horse might be a better choice.

Of course, I don't know her personality, my current OTTB would make a great trail horse, as he is so lazy and slow and reacts minutes after something has happened. He is so dumb and slow, did I mention he is so slow? LOL. But he is not quite the norm, TBs have a reputation for being hot and want to go, they are bred for this and so it is natural. The pic I have in my avatar is his dumb rear meeting himself in the mirror, he met his 'friend' for about 20 minutes before he figured it out.

Based on what you are looking for, I would suggest that it is a nice looking horse, but if you want to just trail, she might not be the best choice for you. If you are looking to event or jump, he looks like a nice horse to me.

Keep looking, it is easy to fall in love while you are looking, but there are so many horses out there right now.

armydogs 11-26-2010 02:06 AM

I want to do more than just trail ride, but I am not sure what I want to do at this point in time. My main thing is I am 6'2" tall, and I like a tall horse. I do not know what she has done since she has been off the track, I have not spoken to the owner yet. I didn't want to interrupt her Thanksgiving to ask her about the horse. I am going to call her tomorrow and see what information I can find out.

AlexS 11-26-2010 02:29 AM

Makes perfect sense. I am a jumper, it is what I enjoy doing with horses, but I bought a young unknown horse off the track and I am suffering through dressage, as I know he needs to learn this. But gawd, does it bore me to death.

I seriously hope that he can manage to jump half decently, when I really make him try next year, as he is only 5. But if not, I will suffer through dressage as much as it pains me.

Of course, as I have the same opinion as you, I agree. I think it is great to do whatever a horse can do well and just go with that!

For what it is worth, if I were looking to buy, this horse looks like a nice horse and I would be interested in it.

Clementine 11-26-2010 04:38 AM

What a cute mare! She's got some nice horses back in her bloodlines...Northern Dancer, Secretariat, Mr. Prospector, and Bold Ruler...anyone would recognize those names! (Okay, well, most horse people should.)

Anyway, conformation critique. Here goes.

*Her legs are long and elegant looking, but still very sturdy. She has nice big knees, short cannon bones, and apparently flat, clean tendons.
*The length and angle of her pasterns is very nice, and ideal for long-term soundness.
*Her shoulder also has a good angle to it, which should, in theory, make for a long, smoother stride.
*Her overall balance appears to be flat or slightly uphill. Which is beginning to be a rare thing in OTTBs.
*She has a gorgeous chiseled face and bright, kind eyes.

*Her back, though of an average length, appears unusually swayed for a 6 year old mare. (Has she been used for breeding at any point?) However, this could be an illusion due to the height of her withers.
*She is post legged (very straight through her hocks)
*Appears cow hocked, though that could be her posture and/or simply signify a need for corrective shoeing.

Overall though, I think she's a very nicely built horse! If you're looking for a fun sport, I bet she'd make a nice jumper. :)

armydogs 11-26-2010 05:16 AM

Clementine, thank you for breaking that down for me. I love her bloodlines. I recognize all the big names, and some of the small ones as well. I really need to learn how to critique a horse. I am looking at what you wrote, and am slowly seeing what you say. Thanks again.

SaratogaTB 11-26-2010 09:09 AM

Her grandfather is Storm Cat, which is very impressive, and wasn't mentioned above. He was the #1 sire for many years.

She is one year younger than my OTTB. in 7 months, my guy has gone from racing to winning first place in a hunter show. OTTBs are versitile sport horses and can do most anything. I also happen to have a slow guy, but slow is relative...for the hunter ring, its working out just fine. He did get caught in traffic in the last show and decided to race his way out of it. Terrifying moment!:wink:

I love her looks, and if you are set to explore english riding she looks perfect. I wouldnt say that to a less experienced rider, however. OTTBs do require someone with experience. In terms of the "sway back" comment....once she begins working her top line will develop. She looks a tiny bit underweight which will go away with time and different muscles will develop, especially in the neck and hindquarters.

equiniphile 11-26-2010 12:46 PM

Good for you for taking in an OTTB! I have a Storm Cat daughter too!

What I can see is she has something funny going on with her back legs, not sure what there. Maybe a tad post-legged.

However, she has good shoulder and pastern angles which will contribute to her being a smooth ride with nice extented gaits. I love her head, it's very refined.

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